Spirituality
27 Jan 19
@kellyjay saidSo do you or don't you believe that every human being deserves "damnation" and the only way they can be saved is through belief in Jesus' sacrifice and forgiveness?
I was reading this and saw you put my name in here while talking to someone else, and were not saying things I thought were true.
@kellyjay saidAssume I "have no idea" and tell me what you believe.
You refused to talk about the gospel in how you used to believe it, and what you do is question the reality around judgment with things that are not quite right, which shows you have either no idea what you are talking about, or you do but choose to twist truth.
@fmf saidSo you think I'm prevaricating because I won't answer your question the way sonship or kellyJay or you think I should?
I think I can quite fairly paraphrase Christians such as sonship and KellyJay as believing that every human being deserves to be tormented in burning flames for eternity and the only way they can be saved is through belief in Jesus' sacrifice and forgiveness. It's interesting how you prevaricated.
You're the one that keeps crying out about what a diverse forum this is, yet you can't grapple with the idea that I should answer in the way I see the question should be answered.
You need to simply accept the fact that my answer stays true to the text, that the concept of a "torturer god ideology" doesn't square with the scriptures, nor does it infer, in my opinion, that those the Bible says will be punished forever for rejecting Christ will experience torturous, agonizing and insufferable physical burning pain in brimstone and molten lava.
Doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible.
@secondson saidTake it up with proponents of the torturer god ideology. If you're not one, fine. Don't use me as a proxy to argue with its proponents.
You need to simply accept the fact that my answer stays true to the text, that the concept of a "torturer god ideology" doesn't square with the scriptures, nor does it infer, in my opinion, that those the Bible says will be punished forever for rejecting Christ will experience torturous, agonizing and insufferable physical burning pain in brimstone and molten lava.
Doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible.
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@fmf saidKellyJay avoids hot topics like a pro, dodges, deflects obfuscates, coughs up dogma-furballs and ignores people he finds difficult to deal with.
Neither SecondSon nor KellyJay are willing to say whether they think this statement is true or false:
"Every human being deserves "damnation" and the only way they can be saved is through belief in Jesus' sacrifice and forgiveness"
How odd.
Secondjosephw doesn’t seem to know what it is he believes but he adamant about it.
08 Feb 19
@fmf saidWhat is truly odd is that you seem to think that I or KellyJay don't believe that everyone that rejects the salvation that God offers through faith in Jesus Christ isn't "damned".
Neither SecondSon nor KellyJay are willing to say whether they think this statement is true or false:
"Every human being deserves "damnation" and the only way they can be saved is through belief in Jesus' sacrifice and forgiveness"
How odd.
That's what the Bible teaches. You should know that considering you claim to have believed what the Bible says for over two decades.