16 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelI don't buy into your panspermia theory. Nor do I think scriptures are useful for obtaining an accurate version of history.
To determine where the aliens come from is not so important, I reckon.It is my contention that we must learn the accurate history of the Earth to go forward. Thats why there is so many different forms of obfuscation employed by various forces . To stop us knowing the truth. Generally speaking. For example did people walk the Earth when the dinosaurs wer ...[text shortened]... rth for much longer than currently thought. How long do you think humans have walked the planet?
How long humans have been around depends on what you mean by 'human.' Early humans branched off from their common ancestor with the chimpanzee about 5 to 7 million years ago. The genus Homo emerged about 2 million years ago. And Homo sapiens originated about 200,000 years ago. So, no, humans did not walk on the earth with dinosaurs. At least not as we think of them. However, if we consider that birds may be descended from dinosaurs, then we are currently walking amongst their descendants.
16 Aug 09
Originally posted by rwingettI disagree,my dear aethiest friend. Yes we need to determine what is meant by 'human'. I do think scriptures are important if interpretted correctly.
I don't buy into your panspermia theory. Nor do I think scriptures are useful for obtaining an accurate version of history.
How long humans have been around depends on what you mean by 'human.' Early humans branched off from their common ancestor with the chimpanzee about 5 to 7 million years ago. The genus Homo emerged about 2 million years ago. And Ho ...[text shortened]... rds may be descended from dinosaurs, then we are currently walking amongst their descendants.
Do you at least agrree that we need to ascertain the true history of the planet to 'move forward'? Or does it not matter?
16 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelinterpret scriptures correctly? Good luck with that.
I disagree,my dear aethiest friend. Yes we need to determine what is meant by 'human'. I do think scriptures are important if interpretted correctly.
Do you at least agrree that we need to ascertain the true history of the planet to 'move forward'? Or does it not matter?
I'm not sure what you mean by 'true history' of the planet. Unless you're implying that the standard scientific theories are all lies designed to cover up some 'truth.'
16 Aug 09
Originally posted by rwingettYeah, your right,I may need some luck to interpret scriptures correctly. But it wont stop me from trying.
interpret scriptures correctly? Good luck with that.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'true history' of the planet. Unless you're implying that the standard scientific theories are all lies designed to cover up some 'truth.'
I think some scientific thoeries are false. I doubt they are deliberately trying to cover up anything. I just think they are wrong. Like for how many years humans have been around.
As always, thank you for your healthy skepticism. That kind of attitude is very important for an accurate assesment of the state of affairs.
16 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelPanspermia suggests that some sort of proto-genetic material entered our environment via a passing comet or colliding meteor, mixing with elements already on earth, thereby creating the new molecular structures that eventually became "life". Where did you get the idea that Panspermia theory entails that "aliens" seeded the Earth? Been watching re-runs of the X-Files?
(It implies that the Earth was seeded by 'aliens' and hence produced humans as we know them)
16 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelWhy did aliens make the cold virus?
Has this one been discussed yet?
(It implies that the Earth was seeded by 'aliens' and hence produced humans as we know them)
In my way of thinkning rhis theory this does not preclude creation or evotution although in another way of thinking it could preclude both of them.
Phew!!!! I'm not expecting any great results with this thread but feel free to try me!
16 Aug 09
Originally posted by David CNever seen the X-files.
Panspermia suggests that some sort of proto-genetic material entered our environment via a passing comet or colliding meteor, mixing with elements already on earth, thereby creating the new molecular structures that eventually became "life". Where did you get the idea that Panspermia theory entails that "aliens" seeded the Earth? Been watching re-runs of the X-Files?
C'mon give me a bit more credit than that.
16 Aug 09
Originally posted by joe beyserOk. One questione at a time. Human and chimp DNA are closely related, yes. But about 2% of it is different, right? Who's to say that 2% doesn't count for a lot? Now whats this got to do with mosquitoes ,viruses,etc.?
If aliens didn't seed all life includings viruses, mosquitos,and monkeys, then how did it happen that humans and chimps DNA are so closely related?
16 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelOkay, I see. I't not a theory of it's own merits then...?
In a way , yes.
I believe there is an element of truth in both theories,though.
Sorry. Cant talk anymore tonight.
I looked it up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia
Does this article describe your thoughts, or do you dispute any part of it? Of so, which part?
How about the "Objections to panspermia and exogenesis" part, do you agree or disagree?
16 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelHow did all life get seeded on earth? With Pansermia, is that only for humans or all life? I thought it was all life which would be viruses, bacteria, electric eels, and the other stuff. Is panspermia something like taking chimp DNA and putting in some modifications?
Ok. One questione at a time. Human and chimp DNA are closely related, yes. But about 2% of it is different, right? Who's to say that 2% doesn't count for a lot? Now whats this got to do with mosquitoes ,viruses,etc.?