17 Aug 09
Originally posted by Proper KnobYes they can be put into context, still I find these conditions highly improbable in an otherwise chaotic universe.
DNA and fossil evidence indicates that modern man originated in East Africa 200,000 yrs ago. But that's beside the point.
The point i was making is that in terms of the life of Earth man has been around for a mere blink of an eye. So therefore these 'stable conditions' can be put into context.
17 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelI would say the advancement in medical science is the reason for the population surge as you put it. I don't see anything extraordinary going on there.
No,no . dont get me wrong. the pop, surge had nothing to do with it.
I was merely citing it as evidence that something extrordinary is going on.
I realize why you may have inferred that from my statement but I was just trying to give you some plain evidence in general...
17 Aug 09
Originally posted by Proper KnobYes 'the advancement in medical science'. That and a couple of other factors like diplomacy as opposed to war,human rights,etc.
I would say the advancement in medical science is the reason for the population surge as you put it. I don't see anything extraordinary going on there.
Its not extrodinary if you look at it bit by bit. But how did these advancements come about?Sure the human race was probably intelligent enough but maybe it got a little 'nudge' here and there.
How about fibre optics? Who invented that?
17 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelThere is always 'something extraordinary going on.' Thats what change is all about. I think we would all agree that there is a population surge, a technological development surge etc etc, but I fail to see how any of that supports anything else you have said. It certainly has no bearing on the origin of Star trek.
No,no . dont get me wrong. the pop, surge had nothing to do with it.
I was merely citing it as evidence that something extrordinary is going on.
I realize why you may have inferred that from my statement but I was just trying to give you some plain evidence in general...
17 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelMaybe it did, who can say, but I see no reason whatsoever for thinking that it is the case. I guess you are calling some of our greatest scientists liars, or were they aliens in disguise?
Its not extrodinary if you look at it bit by bit. But how did these advancements come about?Sure the human race was probably intelligent enough but maybe it got a little 'nudge' here and there.
17 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelFibre optics is the guiding of light by refraction and the principle of this was first demonstrated in the 1840's. Instead of just assuming somehing you don't understand has to be 'extraordinary' and therefore aliens are involved. Just use a Google search.
Yes 'the advancement in medical science'. That and a couple of other factors like diplomacy as opposed to war,human rights,etc.
Its not extrodinary if you look at it bit by bit. But how did these advancements come about?Sure the human race was probably intelligent enough but maybe it got a little 'nudge' here and there.
How about fibre optics? Who invented that?
18 Aug 09
I have heard it claimed that aliens have been on this planet in the past. Down in South America somewhere (Chile?) there are atifacts that look like miniature airplanes. Also there are structures built that only someone in an airplane could see. Has the earth been inhabited by beings that were as technologically advanced as we are thousands of years in the past? Where did it all go?
18 Aug 09
Originally posted by twhiteheadIts just that these 'extraordinary' things have happened at an alarming rate in the last 50-100 years. I just pointed out the star-trek thing as one example of lterally thousands of weird anomolies that are occurring in plague porportions.
There is always 'something extraordinary going on.' Thats what change is all about. I think we would all agree that there is a population surge, a technological development surge etc etc, but I fail to see how any of that supports anything else you have said. It certainly has no bearing on the origin of Star trek.
I know my reasoning is not exactly linear and therefore is hard to follow ,and easy to dismiss. As Robbie Carrobie once said "Dont shoot the messenger" . I just wanted to alert the general community to the extra-terrestrial presence that now surrounds us. It is hard to know where to start with such an awesome subject, but I have to try somewhere.
Now my views are certainly the easiest to shoot down and I realize this. I'm not trying score points here. I just want to put 4ward my views of something I feel really strongly about.
Did you have any critiques on my E.T. 101 thread. I dont expect you to read the whole thing, but how about just one section?
18 Aug 09
Originally posted by Proper KnobIt is my contention that the origonal idea for fibre optics was 'alien' inspired. As were a lot of other ideas.
Fibre optics is the guiding of light by refraction and the principle of this was first demonstrated in the 1840's. Instead of just assuming somehing you don't understand has to be 'extraordinary' and therefore aliens are involved. Just use a Google search.
This is not to take away any 'glory' from the inventor(s) . Again, I'm just asking the dear reader to keep an open mind. For without an open mind there is certainly a hard road ahead. (no to imply that you dont have an open mind, Proper Knob). Peace
18 Aug 09
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Originally posted by joe beyserI believe you are reffering to the Nazca lines.
I have heard it claimed that aliens have been on this planet in the past. Down in South America somewhere (Chile?) there are atifacts that look like miniature airplanes. Also there are structures built that only someone in an airplane could see. Has the earth been inhabited by beings that were as technologically advanced as we are thousands of years in the past? Where did it all go?
Visitors have been coming and going throughout the Earths history. After all, they want to make sure and guide their 'creations' to fullfill their destinies.
As for where it all went, I'm sure they can get rid of the evidence.
Remember it is a universal law that 'aliens' from other worlds cannot interfere with the natural evolution of a planet unless there are 'extraordinary' circumstances. Apparently thats what we have here. Without their 'guidance' we would have destroyed ourselves by way of nuclear war. So permission was granted from 'higher up' to intervene in a proper fashion so as to avoid this disaster.
Again, I cant stress enough that 'intervention' is not in compliance with universal law and if anyone would have survived the nuclear war,ANYONE, then the permission would not have been granted.
I'm happy to answer any questions on this topic, and will not make up any answers or lie on purpose . If I dont know , I will say. I will strive to make my answers as accurate as possible. But I will need questions to proceed...
18 Aug 09
Originally posted by jaywill[a] eden in genesis, is like heaven, if it were on earth we would see it, or the angel that blocks our return. I can understand as i once belived it to be in the land east called nod, but as we have a better understanding of the earth, this seems too easy. once they were cast to earth then after cains fall from grace yes i can go along with this.
Of course I didn't ask where heaven was stoker. I simply said that I never got the impression that the garden of Eden in Genesis was anywhere but on the earth.
The Bible speaks of the directions of East. Cain moved east of Eden in a land called Nod.
Since God gave man dominion over all the earth it stands to reason that the garden o ...[text shortened]... in a garden with the mentioning of rivers. Two of which I recognize as being on the earth.[/b]
[b] god gave man dominion yes this still stands today as then, we name all creatures set before us as the book states.
[c] the EARTH is not important to god man is, as we may in some time hence move to another planet to inhabit, the law of god is for man.
[d] thy kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven, his will be done on earth [i wish] but in heaven it is. but the two are seperate so heaven is noy on earth.
[e] the rivers flow from heaven, but man was from the dust. as we say remember that man you are dust and to dust you shall return. but our soul/spirit will return to be judged at its time, not the flesh that is weak.
ps like the debate and sorry to take time to reply,
18 Aug 09
My problem is not that I don't know enough of the truth.
It's that I don't act in line with the truth I already know!
Jesus created me. I was made for his pleasure, not for mine. I accept his authority when he says he created me, because in my base reckoning, anyone who goes so far as to die on a cross for me and give me heaven for free has the authority to tell me anything.
And the fact that I don't live up to this evident truth means I need more grace. (In case anyone is interested in that!)
18 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelWell you certainly have me lost. I don't know which 'star trek thing' you are referring to that is a weird anomaly. Its only weird if you believe that the screen writers we being dictated to by aliens.
Its just that these 'extraordinary' things have happened at an alarming rate in the last 50-100 years. I just pointed out the star-trek thing as one example of lterally thousands of weird anomolies that are occurring in plague proportions.
I know my reasoning is not exactly linear and therefore is hard to follow ,and easy to dismiss.
I just wanted to alert the general community to the extra-terrestrial presence that now surrounds us. It is hard to know where to start with such an awesome subject, but I have to try somewhere.
I can assure you that you will get nowhere unless you can provide more than rumor and speculation. There is no point 'alerting the general community' if they just think you are a madman.
Did you have any critiques on my E.T. 101 thread. I dont expect you to read the whole thing, but how about just one section?
I'll go have a look.