Of course in preaching the Gospel the awfulness of sin is good to paint as a background to the wonderfulness of the Lord and Savior Jesus.
Such people who claim to be Christians are wolves in sheep's clothing. They need to be identified and rebuked publicly for all to see.
Agreed?
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That may be necessary. I may rebuke you if I find your "gospel" is perverted, ie. exalting some tradition of your cultural background rather than exalting Jesus Christ.
You may rebuke me too. Only Jesus is absolutely for the will of the Father. So we should have our hands full of Christ, and turn always to Christ, and exalt always Christ.
Often to be an example is rebuke enough. You live Christ and be the light of the world.
The churches in Revelation were seven golden lampstands. Lampstands are for shinning out the light of testimony. In the dark night men and women in a community walking by and living by Christ will be a lampstand of testimony. Other things will be exposed in this light.
Your gospel is very much cultivating hatred for liberals, and more hatred for liberals, and more and more hatred for liberals. After a while people will wonder what it is you are being fed. Have you just returned from an alt-right skinhead meeting of some kind ?
Christians should always give the impression that they have just been with Jesus.
" And as they beheld the boldness of Peter and John ... they marveled and they recognized them, that they had been with Jesus." (See Acts 4:13)
Originally posted by @sonshipYou say all this kind of thing to Eladar and yet also refuse to say whether you think he is a better or worse Christian than you or whether Jesus "flows out" of him - a claim you made about defining Christians - on threads about those very subjects. You fobbed me off saying that you didn't want to say anything divisive. So what's the stuff above all about now, then?
Your gospel is very much cultivating hatred for liberals, and more hatred for liberals, and more and more hatred for liberals. After a while people will wonder what it is you are being fed. Have you just returned from an ult-right skinhead meeting of some kind ?
Originally posted by @fmfThe stuff above is about JESUS ! .
You say all this kind of thing to Eladar and yet also refuse to say whether you think he is a better or worse Christian than you or whether Jesus "flows out" of him - a claim you made about defining Christians - on threads about those very subjects. You fobbed me off saying that you didn't want to say anything divisive. So what's the stuff above all about now, then?
Don't you love it?
You seem to want to bring up again and again the matter of the flowing out of the Spirit of Christ. Maybe I'll open a thread on that sometime.
Out of his innermost being shall FLOW rivers of living water. But this He spoke concerning the Spirit. (See John ,,, .... ) eh, go look it up yourself if you're really interested.
Originally posted by @sonshipYet so many preach the Jesus of Satan and call that the light for they hate the real light.
Of course in preaching the Gospel the awfulness of sin is good to paint as a background to the wonderfulness of the Lord and Savior Jesus.
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Such people who claim to be Christians are wolves in sheep's clothing. They need to be identified and rebuked publicly for all to see.
Agreed?
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Often to be an example is rebuke enough. You live Christ and be the light of the world.[/b]
Originally posted by @sonshipNo. The 'stuff above' was what I had quoted, which was this:
The stuff above is about JESUS !.
"Your gospel is very much cultivating hatred for liberals, and more hatred for liberals, and more and more hatred for liberals. After a while people will wonder what it is you are being fed. Have you just returned from an ult-right skinhead meeting of some kind ?"
That was about Eladar and not Jesus.
Originally posted by @sonshipYeah, maybe you'll open a thread on that sometime and talk the talk like you do, but when you are asked about walking the walk i.e. real examples, real experiences, real people, real stuff ~ you pout and you deflect and you start making things up and attributing them to the posters causing you inconvenience.
You seem to want to bring up again and again the matter of the flowing out of the Spirit of Christ. Maybe I'll open a thread on that sometime.
So you talk the talk like a lecturer in an tower made of ivory about one Christian being a better teacher than another, but you can't apply it and say if whodey and Eladar are better Christian teachers than you or not; you talk the talk about how "Jesus flows out" of Christians but it has no application to the Christians here and you can on;y mention people mentioned in an ancient text.
Originally posted by @ragwortDo you mind explaining what is a relationship with God?
As I see it Jesus spent a significant proportion of the Gospels countering the legalistic views of the Pharisees with pithy one liners and parables in his attempts to show that God was not some grumpy vindictive Sinai mountain god but the God of love and forgiveness. Both Jesus and Paul in many places have talked about the need not to judge including in Rom ...[text shortened]... h is that eventually everyone who is not worthy is crossed out leaving you in a minority of one.
Originally posted by @sonshipUtter nonsense. Nowhere would you find Jesus telling people to do or say that.
[b]Just hating sin is not enough that is true but it is required.
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Required for what?
If you draw near to the living God, loving Him, hatred for what draws you away from God will be a byproduct.
If you do not hate sin it is because you do not recognize it as sin. If you do ...[text shortened]... Lord may i see through Your eyes and choose through Your deciding. Christ , LIVE in me. [/quote]
Originally posted by @fmfNo that too was about Jesus.
No. The 'stuff above' was what I had quoted, which was this:
[b]"Your gospel is very much cultivating hatred for liberals, and more hatred for liberals, and more and more hatred for liberals. After a while people will wonder what it is you are being fed. Have you just returned from an ult-right skinhead meeting of some kind ?"
That was about Eladar and not Jesus.[/b]
Nice try though.
Your gospel is very much cultivating hatred for liberals, and more hatred for liberals, and more and more hatred for liberals. After a while people will wonder what it is you are being fed. Have you just returned from an alt-right skinhead meeting of some kind ?
Christians should always give the impression that they have just been with Jesus.
" And as they beheld the boldness of Peter and John ... they marveled and they recognized them, that they had been with Jesus." (See Acts 4:13)
Originally posted by @sonshipWe are to love the liberal just hate the lies he spews. You should know that.
The churches in Revelation were seven golden lampstands. Lampstands are for shinning out the light of testimony. In the dark night men and women in a community walking by and living by Christ will be a lampstand of testimony. Other things will be exposed in this light.
Your gospel is very much cultivating hatred for liberals, and more hatred for libera ...[text shortened]... marveled and they recognized them, that they had been with Jesus." (See Acts 4:13) [/quote][/b]
Yes Conservatives can go off the deep end too. Both liberals and many conservatives do not know God.
Originally posted by @eladarYou're way off the deep end, boy. If Jesus were alive today he'd be a Liberal Democrat.
We are to love the liberal just hate the lies he spews. You should know that.
Yes Conservatives can go off the deep end too. Both liberals and many conservatives do not know God.
Originally posted by @handyandyYou believe Jesus supports the killing of unborn children and homosexual marriages?
You're way off the deep end, boy. If Jesus were alive today he'd be a Liberal Democrat.
If so this is just one example of why your name will not be in the book of life.
Originally posted by @eladarI believe Jesus supports the right to terminate a pregnancy as well as the right to love and cherish whoever you choose.
You believe Jesus supports the killing of unborn children and homosexual marriages?
If so this is just one example of why your name will not be in the book of life.