Paul on the importance of the Law

Originally posted by @js357
“Homosexual” is an identity, to anyone who is keeping up with society’s evolution as reflected in its use of words. The Bible condemns those who commit a certain act, and at that, only the penetrator, regardless of his “identity.” In some societies the penetrator is not labeled as homosexual. Homosexuals who do not “lie with a man as one lies with a woman,” w ...[text shortened]... . Edit: and is probably contaminated by a puritanical distaste for calling things what they are.

If they do not have sex at all then fine. If they had sex then both are to be put to death according to Leviticus.

Originally posted by @handyandy
Adam and Eve? A simplistic way of explaining a long and complicated story.

Jesus quoted the simple story as if were true. Do you not believe what Jesus taught?

Originally posted by @eladar
If they do not have sex at all then fine. If they had sex then both are to be put to death according to Leviticus.

Leviticus is obsolete.

Originally posted by @eladar
Jesus quoted the simple story as if were true. Do you not believe what Jesus taught?

I don't believe that's what Jesus taught. The account was written by a biased reporter.

Originally posted by @handyandy
I don't believe that's what Jesus taught. The account was written by a biased reporter.

So why do you need a Bible to know what you believe Jesus taught. Just be like Joseph Smith and make it up as you go. Of course you don't need to look in a hat as you do it.

Originally posted by @eladar
So why do you need a Bible to know what you believe Jesus taught. Just be like Joseph Smith and make it up as you go. Of course you don't need to look in a hat as you do it.

You don't think Joseph Smith was divinely inspired but you do think the writer of Revelation was?

Originally posted by @handyandy
Leviticus is obsolete.

He asked about the only one theory. I showed why it is wrong.

Originally posted by @fmf
You don't think Joseph Smith was divinely inspired but you do think the writer of Revelation was?

Joe Smith was led by a demon. Mormons are devil worshippers.

Originally posted by @eladar
Joe Smith was led by a demon. Mormons are devil worshippers.

What about books like Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, and the two Maccabees books? All divinely inspired?

Originally posted by @eladar
Joe Smith was led by a demon. Mormons are devil worshippers.

What about Catholics, Greek Orthodox, christadelphian, Christian scientists. How do you personally decide what is right directionally?

Originally posted by @handyandy
Leviticus is obsolete.

It is indeed obsolete according to Paul in Romans 13, because in most if not all countries, it is illegal to take the law into your own hands, and it would be criminal murder if not also a hate crime. Paul knew what he was doing in Romans 13.

Originally posted by @js357
Paul knew what he was doing in Romans 13.

Maybe Paul was doing the Romans' bidding.

Originally posted by @divegeester
What about Catholics, Greek Orthodox, christadelphian, Christian scientists. How do you personally decide what is right directionally?

You have to affirm the Nicene creed to be Christian... I will make a few exceptions for modalists and some slight deviations on the Trinity, but generally speaking, the Nicene creed is probably the best way to summarize what a true Christian sect is.

Jehovah's Witnesses and some very liberal sects can make the cut, but Mormons? Never.

It is a fair definiton of what constitutes a Christian because it accurately restricts it in addition to not catering to any particular conservative/liberal bend.

Originally posted by @fmf
The Hebrews committed genocide against people living on land they wanted to settle on. On what basis are you claiming that the justification that they wrote down later in their chronicling of the genocide - that they were ordered by a supernatural being to kill all the people and take their land - was not an historical lie?

No, it wasn't a lie.

They were told to annihilate a group, and they did. But they actually failed in the task for the Moabites or Ammonites. I am not sure which it was or the details of it, but yeah...

The point stands: they were ordered to wipe out their enemy and they did so. It was accurately described.

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
You have to affirm the Nicene creed to be Christian.

Were the First Council of Nicaea and the First Council of Constantinople prophesized or mentioned by early Christian writers in the decades or first couple of centuries after Jesus was executed?