01 Jul 23
@ghost-of-a-duke saidAs you see it, should Christian homosexuals who see homosexual sex as "sinful" [because of their conditioning by their church], and who nevertheless engage in it, be repentant and pray for forgiveness each time after having sex?
On celibacy, Jesus said:
“Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.” (Matthew 19:11)
He ...[text shortened]... between Christian teaching (especially when not backed up by scripture) and the teachings of Christ.
Or do you see, theologically speaking, that willful and deliberate "sinfulness" is automatically forgiven through the suffering, death and resurrection of Jesus?
01 Jul 23
@fmf saidI think gay Christians shouldn't concern themselves with what other humans think, even if this is within the church or church dogma. A Christian should only concern themselves with scripture, and especially the teachings of Jesus, believing as they do He speaks for God. (Or is God).
As you see it, should Christian homosexuals who see homosexual sex as "sinful" [because of their conditioning by their church], and who nevertheless engage in it, be repentant and pray for forgiveness each time after having sex?
Or do you see, theologically speaking, that willful and deliberate "sinfulness" is automatically forgiven through the suffering, death and resurrection of Jesus?
The issue of forgiveness (if required) is between the Christian and their maker. - However, the same Jesus who tells people to go and sin no more also tells people not to cast stones at sinners and implies nobody is without sin. On this basis, 'all' Christians probably require forgiveness.
@fmf said🙄
As you see it, should Christian homosexuals who see homosexual sex as "sinful" [because of their conditioning by their church], and who nevertheless engage in it, be repentant and pray for forgiveness each time after having sex?
Or do you see, theologically speaking, that willful and deliberate "sinfulness" is automatically forgiven through the suffering, death and resurrection of Jesus?
@divegeester saidHe believes in sin?
But FMF does “believe in the topic” he’s evidently very committed to the topic.
Probably a surprise to him.
13 Jul 23
@suzianne saidI believe that the notion of "sin" is very real to people who believe that God's will can be transgressed and I believe that this phenomenon has a massive effect on human behaviour and interaction. Thus, it is an interesting topic.
He believes in sin?
Probably a surprise to him.