15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieit is the expulsion of an unborn human. it has no rights.
wrong, abortion is the expulsion of an embryo or a foetus that has full rights to life.
Spontaneous abortion or miscarriage results from human imperfection or from an
accident, not because God decrees it, deliberately induced abortion simply to avoid
the birth of an unwanted child is the wilful taking of human life and is reprehensible.
and all of it is caused by biblegod, he is simply reprehensible.
Ps. 139:13-16: “You [Jehovah] kept me screened off in the belly of my mother. . . .
Your eyes saw even the embryo of me, and in your book all its parts were down in
writing.”
clearly God as the architect of life has knowledge of and has taken measures to
ensure the safety of the embryo after conception, it states here clearly that , it must
be precious to him, for he has figuratively screened it off.
wrong, the psalm is a specific case involving a specific person (the author of the psalm), which happens to be king david in this case. clearly the bible shows that biblegod had a plan for king david, so of course he would protect him in the womb.
How does God view life in the womb?
(Exodus 21:23-25) But if a fatal accident should occur, then you must give soul for
soul, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, branding for
branding, wound for wound, blow for blow.
Some translations make it appear that in this law to Israel the crucial matter was
what happened to the mother, not to the foetus. The original Hebrew text, however,
refers to a fatal accident to either mother or child.
now that's desperate contortion. nothing you quoted there has anything to do with any stage of unborn human. any children it may be talking about are actual children.
Clearly you know neither the
word of God nor his viewpoint on abortion. Indeed your whole insane and ludicrous
argument hinges upon some unsubstantiated claim that God is responsible for evil
(itself open to interpretation) and to use such a broad term for some kind of
sanctification of your psycho agenda is a nonsense, NO EXCUSES for taking of life.
i have proven my case with biblical verses. you have only fantasies and intellectual dishonesty.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobiethe parents did make sure their children were safe. if they didn't humanity would've gone extinct on its own.
their parents had the responsibility to make sure that their children were safe, they
failed to heed the warnings, (forty years of preaching, a huge ark, hello!) and the error
was their own. Another epic Fail.
in the flood story, we have a clear case of biblegod murdering innocent children both born and those still in the womb for the alleged sins of their parents by his rash actions of which he later felt sorry.
the only fail here is your cognitive dissonance that makes you incapable of seeing the culpability of your god, even when he confesses to his mistake.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by VoidSpiritwrong, Jesus himself tells us why they were reprehensible,
the parents did make sure their children were safe. if they didn't humanity would've gone extinct on its own.
in the flood story, we have a clear case of biblegod murdering innocent children both born and those still in the womb for the alleged sins of their parents by his rash actions of which he later felt sorry.
the only fail here is your cognit ...[text shortened]... es you incapable of seeing the culpability of your god, even when he confesses to his mistake.
(Matthew 24:38-39) . . .For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and
drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah
entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them
all away, . . .
the error was their own and no amount of postulation, references to cognitive
dissonance will negate this fact.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDid Noah preach for the innocent babies too, those babies that didn't understand anything of what Noah preached? How about the innocent unborn babies, who was so far safe in the womb? Do these babies have any responsiblity to what others did or not did? Didn't they die along with all other sinners?
those persons were given ample warning, in fact, Noah preached to them to repent for
forty years, he built a huge ark, four stories high and larger than a football field, did
they listen? nope, did they repent and change, nope, the error was their own, what
error has an unborn child committed that it must be denied the chance of life? that is
correct, nothing! You FAIL, bunch of psychos.
Meaning - god killed all, the murderer killed all. He doen't ask who was guilty or innocent. He just killed all. With the exception of the Noah family of course, but everyone else.
If you defend god when he kills unborn babies, then you cannot have any opinions about unborn babies of today being killed by abortionists. If you do, then you give a clear example of schizoid thinking.
But who am I to discuss legends and funny stories from Genesis, not meant to be discussed thousands of years later? You religiously believe in them, but don't expect anyone else to believe them. Good stories though. As are the stories written by HC Andersen.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by VoidSpiritIt has no rights.
it is the expulsion of an unborn human. it has no rights.
Spontaneous abortion or miscarriage results from human imperfection or from an
accident, not because God decrees it, deliberately induced abortion simply to avoid
the birth of an unwanted child is the wilful taking of human life and is reprehensible.
and all of it is c ...[text shortened]... have proven my case with biblical verses. you have only fantasies and intellectual dishonesty.
you psychotic supporter of mass murder! you should be incarcerated.
your attempts to explain away the scriptures are a nonsense, clearly God views an
unborn as a full human life. Pity that for your feeble attempts to undermine this
Biblically verifiable fact.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThen you actually believe that god is a murderer when, during the great flood, killed every unborn innocent baby, everyone in one strike.
clearly God views an unborn as a full human life. Pity that for your feeble attempts to undermine this Biblically verifiable fact.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by FabianFnasIll deal with you when get back from work, psycho! Here is a song for you in the meantime,
Did Noah preach for the innocent babies too, those babies that didn't understand anything of what Noah preached? How about the innocent unborn babies, who was so far safe in the womb? Do these babies have any responsiblity to what others did or not did? Didn't they die along with all other sinners?
Meaning - god killed all, the murderer killed all. He ...[text shortened]... anyone else to believe them. Good stories though. As are the stories written by HC Andersen.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieit doesn't matter what jesus or biblegod thought. what matters is what they did. biblegod murdered children and unborn humans in the flood. this is irrefutable. it's in the bible. the children and unborn humans aren't mentioned by name, but they are included in the mass of humanity that was murdered wholesale.
wrong, Jesus himself tells us why they were reprehensible,
(Matthew 24:38-39) . . .For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and
drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah
entered into the ark; [b]and they took no note until the flood came and swept them
all away, . . .
the error w ...[text shortened]... ir own and no amount of postulation, references to cognitive
dissonance will negate this fact.[/b]
stop making excuses for your psychotic god. he murders children and unborn humans willy-nilly. there is no biblical justification for taking away the rights of women when it comes to their choices.
for as long as a human is inside a women's body, the woman has [b]all[/i] the rights, both of herself and the baby.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieyou're lying to yourself. you have not been able to show a single verse of scripture in support of your inane arguments, i have show you many verses in opposition.
It has no rights.
you psychotic supporter of mass murder! you should be incarcerated.
your attempts to explain away the scriptures are a nonsense, clearly God views an
unborn as a full human life. Pity that for your feeble attempts to undermine this
Biblically verifiable fact.
biblegod has no respect for human life except specific ones he has chosen for his playthings.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIs that a threat? Then it is you who are the psyco.
Ill deal with you when get back from work, psycho! Here is a song for you in the meantime,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5zFsy9VIdM
Well, schizoid anyway. Believing that god didn't murder unborn babies during the flood, at the same time he is against killing unborn babies, at the same time denying babies blood transfuson thus killing them... Very much schizo...
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by FabianFnassure you tell your psycho conscience whatever it needs to justify the unlawful killing of
Is that a threat? Then it is you who are the psyco.
Well, schizoid anyway. Believing that god didn't murder unborn babies during the flood, at the same time he is against killing unborn babies, at the same time denying babies blood transfuson thus killing them... Very much schizo...
115,000 innocents and the beauty of this whole thread is watching the materialist fall
over themselves to accredit blame to a God they dont even believe in, one couldn't
make it up!
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by VoidSpiritI have given two references which demonstrate that God cares for the embryo and that
you're lying to yourself. you have not been able to show a single verse of scripture in support of your inane arguments, i have show you many verses in opposition.
biblegod has no respect for human life except specific ones he has chosen for his playthings.
he views an unborn as having rights, you have proffered nothing except some vague
assertions about the flood and an interpretation about evil.
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are a very sad and sick twisted person.
sure you tell your psycho conscience whatever it needs to justify the unlawful killing of
115,000 innocents and the beauty of this whole thread is watching the materialist fall
over themselves to accredit blame to a God they dont even believe in, one couldn't
make it up!
15 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou avoid very cautiosly the points I have, what invalidate your arguments.
sure you tell your psycho conscience whatever it needs to justify the unlawful killing of
115,000 innocents and the beauty of this whole thread is watching the materialist fall
over themselves to accredit blame to a God they dont even believe in, one couldn't
make it up!
(1) God kills innocent babies. (according to Genisis)
(2) JW accept the death to babies denied blood transfusions. (according to JW principles)
(3) You think it is a murder to abort fetuses minutes after the conception. (according to you)
When you have straightened out these rather embarrasing points, then we can discuss the pecularities about legal abortions. If you avoid the points above, then I have to remind you of your schizoid personality.