Question to three posters

Originally posted by Rajk999
I cannot read all that gibberish. Doubt anyone could. Just read the first few lines and it is clear that you fail to grasp the meaning of abiding in Christ. There is only one way to abide in Christ and that is to follow His commandments.

But you preach that following commandments is legalistic and nonsense.

Obviously then you cannot abide in Christ regardless of how many times you claim to do so.

Can an Atheist abide in Christ by keeping His commandments ?

Originally posted by sonship
Can an Atheist abide in Christ by keeping His commandments ?

Can a Christian abide in Christ and NOT KEEP CHRIST;S COMMANDMENTS? NO!

God is not interested in the man's labels. You can call yourself whatever you like. You can claim to believe whatever you like. Profess whatever you like. It is your actions that will determine how God will judge. This is why Paul said .. not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.  DOERS .. NOT TALKERS AND HEARERS... DOERS!!

Can a atheist abide in Christ by KEEPING CHRIST;S COMMANDMENTS? YES !

Because Christ said:

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. (John 15:10-14 KJV)

ALL people who keep Christs commandments are loved by Christ.
They are loved by God.
God is with them.
They are friends of God.
ALL people.

Your problem is that you believe in mouth worship, in talking, in claims made by the mouth.
You are a dead faith Christian.
You are superficial and shallow and worst of all you believe that God is superfical and shallow like yourself.
Your day will come and you will find out.

Can a atheist abide in Christ by KEEPING CHRIST;S COMMANDMENTS? YES !

I don't think you are my spiritual brother. Finally, the giving you a benefit of a doubt has yielded some clarity.

No non-believer can abide in Jesus Christ by not even believing in God.

" Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who confesses the Son has the Father also. " (1 John 2:23)

Reading your other words is a waste of my time. For a long time, a long time i gave you a benefit of a doubt. I don't think you know the Lord.

So you say one who does not even believe in the existence of God can abide in Christ.
You must be dead in your human spirit.
You must never have received the Spirit of Christ into your heart.
You must have never been born from above.

Man, someone bewitched you pretty bad !

Originally posted by sonship

Can a atheist abide in Christ by KEEPING CHRIST;S COMMANDMENTS? YES !

I don't think you are my spiritual brother. Finally, the giving you a benefit of a doubt has yielded some clarity.

No non-believer can abide in Jesus Christ by not even believing in God.

[quote] [b] " Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either; ...[text shortened]... our heart.
You must have never been born from above.

Man, someone bewitched you pretty bad !

I think at a later date sonship you will regret making this post.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I think at a later date sonship you will regret making this post.

It is possible. But I bore with this spirit of antichrist for a LONG time.

I gave this man leeway upon leeway - "maybe he's just confused".

No one who rejects Christ can abide in Christ P-E-R-I-O-D .

I don't mean reject a Catholic statue or reject a picture of the Mother and Child.
I don't mean reject a prosperity Gospel preacher TV evangelist.
I mean reject Jesus Christ as Divine.


No one who doesn't even believe in the existence of God can in any way, shape, or form be abiding in the Christ.

Originally posted by sonship

Can a atheist abide in Christ by KEEPING CHRIST;S COMMANDMENTS? YES !

I don't think you are my spiritual brother. Finally, the giving you a benefit of a doubt has yielded some clarity.

No non-believer can abide in Jesus Christ by not even believing in God.

[quote] [b] " Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either; ...[text shortened]... our heart.
You must have never been born from above.

Man, someone bewitched you pretty bad !

You like 1 John 2? Here is a nice passage from that same chapter:

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:3-4 KJV)

Who knows Christ? Is it those who profess faith?
Preachers and pastors who practice child abuse ?

Those who keep His commandments know Christ.
And Christ knows them and lives with them.

You preach against the keeping of commandments of Christ.
You deny Christ with your preaching.

This parable of Jesus makes the point:

But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard. He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went. And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not. Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. (Matthew 21:28-31 KJV)

it is not what the man says .. it is what the man DOES.
You claim to believe but you deny Christ with your words and your actions
An atheist can deny Christ with his words but his actions may be pleasing to Christ

Originally posted by sonship
It is possible. But I bore with this spirit of antichrist for a LONG time.

I gave this man leeway upon leeway - "maybe he's just confused".

No one who [b]rejects Christ can abide in Christ P-E-R-I-O-D .

I don't mean reject a Catholic statue or reject a picture of the Mother and Child.
I don't mean reject a prosperity Gospel prea ...[text shortened]... elieve in the existence of God can in any way, shape, or form be abiding in the Christ.[/b]

Leeway? Do you really believe that I hold you in such high regard that I need or desire leeway from the likes of you?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I think at a later date sonship you will regret making this post.

I think i regret not making it sooner.

" A factious man, after the first and second admonition, refuse. "

I let it go to about 100 or maybe more admonitions.

Originally posted by sonship
I think i regret not making it sooner.

[b]" A factious man, after the first and second admonition, refuse. "

I let it go to about 100 or maybe more admonitions.[/b]

Is there something or someone that makes you think you have to right or authority to admonish anyone. I have to ask because in this forum you have no credibility or authority. Maybe in your local community they massage your balls and lick your a$$, and you feel like a king but here you are just a regular nobody. Maybe you need to get off your high horse and start following the commandments of Christ. That is the only thing that will get you into the Kingdom of God.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I think at a later date sonship you will regret making this post.

I think the entire Ideological Talk The Talk Rhetoric Litmus Test For People Less Holy Than Me angle of the thread was injudicious.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Is there something or someone that makes you think you have to right or authority to admonish anyone. I have to ask because in this forum you have no credibility or authority. Maybe in your local community they massage your balls and lick your a$$, and you feel like a king but here you are just a regular nobody. Maybe you need to get off your high horse and ...[text shortened]... ng the commandments of Christ. That is the only thing that will get you into the Kingdom of God.

Your preaching would carry a modicum of credibility if you at least attempted to practice it.

Originally posted by FMF
I think the entire Ideological Talk The Talk Rhetoric Litmus Test For People Less Holy Than Me angle of the thread was injudicious.

As I said earlier, sonship has reaped what he has sowed with this thread.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Still soliciting for information I see, lucky for you I am not a grass although I cannot say the same for Judasgeester. No addresses will be forthcoming.

I don't have to solicit any information from you Robert, you have freely given up much about yourself over the years. We know your name, we know what town you live in, we know your date of birth, we know about your wife and how long you have been married and even gave information about you and your wife's sexual history. You've made reference to your son numerous times. I could go on, but the point has been made.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
I don't have to solicit any information from you Robert, you have freely given up much about yourself over the years. We know your name, we know what town you live in, we know your date of birth, we know about your wife and how long you have been married and even gave information about you and your wife's sexual history. You've made reference to your son numerous times. I could go on, but the point has been made.

"...the point has been made."

That you're a stalker?!

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
"...the point has been made."

That you're a stalker?!

That is one way of looking at it, but not the angle i was going for.