@kingdavid403 saidOccam’s razor would point to there being a much wider family. As kellyjay indicated. People lived for nearly a thousand years in some cases.
Furthermore, God understood Cain's fears and put a mark on him to keep him safe.
@kingdavid403 saidEverybody would have been related then. There must have been thousands of people by then. Adam was about 130 yrs old when Cain was born.
It's a theory; not established fact.
What people do you think Cain was scared of?
Furthermore, God understood Cain's fears and put a mark on him to keep him safe.
@divegeester saidBut I do know that inventing a whole separate human species to fill a contextual void isn’t the solution,
I don’t know.
But I do know that inventing a whole separate human species to fill a contextual void isn’t the solution, for the reasons I’ve given above.
Are Jews a separate human species? Are you Jewish? I know that I am not. Not a sign anywhere of Jewish blood in my bloodline history. I'm a Gentile dog adopted in thanks to Jesus.
@kingdavid403 saidI’m not sure what you’re getting at?
But I do know that inventing a whole separate human species to fill a contextual void isn’t the solution,
Are Jews a separate human species? Are you Jewish? I know that I am not. Not a sign anywhere of Jewish blood in my bloodline history. I'm a Gentile dog adopted in thanks to Jesus.
@divegeester said"Maybe the people Cain was afraid of were not born by Adam and Eve at all. Adam and Eve were the first people personally formed by the hand of God to come and save us, and His creation. God knew that they would eventually fall, so God created them to save the rest of humanity threw them (hope that makes sense).
I’m not sure what you’re getting at?
Christ, all the Great Prophets, Moses, All Jews, can be traced back to the bloodline of Adam and Eve. The rest of us are adopted in; through Christ the Lord.
Just a thought..." or possible theory.
@kingdavid403 saidAs I said, I don’t accept this idea of a separate race of humans outside of Adam and Eve, for the reasons I gave earlier.
"Maybe the people Cain was afraid of were not born by Adam and Eve at all. Adam and Eve were the first people personally formed by the hand of God to come and save us, and His creation. God knew that they would eventually fall, so God created them to save the rest of humanity threw them (hope that makes sense).
Christ, all the Great Prophets, Moses, All Jews, can be tra ...[text shortened]... Eve. The rest of us are adopted in; through Christ the Lord.
Just a thought..." or possible theory.
You seem to be pretty fixed on it.
@kingdavid403 saidIs your position here then that Jews are a different race, species even, than gentiles?
Are Jews a separate human species? Are you Jewish? I know that I am not. Not a sign anywhere of Jewish blood in my bloodline history. I'm a Gentile dog adopted in thanks to Jesus.
@divegeester saidI'm not fixed on anything. You asked what I was getting at and I gave you my point or thoughts, or a theory on this subject.
As I said, I don’t accept this idea of a separate race of humans outside of Adam and Eve, for the reasons I gave earlier.
You seem to be pretty fixed on it.
@kingdavid403 saidActually, it makes no sense, and does not even remotely fit into the bible. Sounds like a story someone fabricated just to match it up with other stories of people being there before the creation, which is nonsense.
"Maybe the people Cain was afraid of were not born by Adam and Eve at all. Adam and Eve were the first people personally formed by the hand of God to come and save us, and His creation. God knew that they would eventually fall, so God created them to save the rest of humanity threw them (hope that makes sense).
Christ, all the Great Prophets, Moses, All Jews, can be tra ...[text shortened]... Eve. The rest of us are adopted in; through Christ the Lord.
Just a thought..." or possible theory.
I would accept that there were creations before on Earth as God told Adam and Eve to replenish the Earth. But at the point when Adam and Eve were created they were all dead and gone.
@divegeester saidThey are a different race than the Gentiles; species, no. Same as Africans are a different race than Hispanics etc. However, they are all the same species.
Is your position here then that Jews are a different race, species even, than gentiles?
@rajk999 saidAgain, for the third time: I never said that there were other people around before creation. I'm saying that other people MAY HAVE been created while Adam and Eve were in the Garden. And, it does fit into the Bible; and possibly fills some of the missing pieces to some of these long sought after questions.
Actually, it makes no sense, and does not even remotely fit into the bible. Sounds like a story someone fabricated just to match it up with other stories of people being there before the creation, which is nonsense.
I would accept that there were creations before on Earth as God told Adam and Eve to replenish the Earth. But at the point when Adam and Eve were created they were all dead and gone.
Seek and we will find.
@kingdavid403 saidWhat is the long sought after question? Who was Cain afraid of?
again, for the third time: I never said there were other people around before creation. I'm saying that other people MAY HAVE been created while Adam and Eve were in the Garden. And, it does fit into the Bible; and possibly fills some of the missing pieces to this long sought after question.
@rajk999 saidYes. it is one of them. Where did these other people come from that Cain was afraid of? Where did all the people come from that are not Jewish?
What is the long sought after question? Who was Cain afraid of?
@kingdavid403 saidI think I answered that above. They were all descendents of Adam and Eve. Why is that hard to believe?
Yes. it is one of them. Where did these other people come from that Cain was afraid of?