24 Jun 18
Originally posted by @sonshipSweet. So every petty, silly intra-Christian argument on this forum is in fact, an eternal-death match.
This is how narrow is the way that leads to life.
No two Christians who have a problem of offended-ness between them will both enter into the kingdom to come. Either one will enter and the other will be kept out or both will be kept out.
I'm going to say it again. Then I'm going to prove it from Scripture.
How narrow is the way to life?
How co ...[text shortened]... he path to reward in the kingdom age?
How broad is the way to destruction?
See again below.
I'm going to order the XXL tub of popcorn.
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24 Jun 18
Everybody?
I would suggest that some of you stop applying this teaching to "the OTHER guy."
In the night when your lights in your house are brightly lite, you cannot see that well what is going on in other houses. When your own house is more in the dark inside, you can see real well what is going on in your neighbor's house.
"This is just what So-and-So needs to hear" may not be the best attitude. Apply it first to yourself.
24 Jun 18
Originally posted by @sonshipThats kinda creepy. I know it's an analogy but in all fairness I don't look into other' private lives.
Everybody?
I would suggest that some of you stop applying this teaching to "the OTHER guy."
In the night when your lights in your house are brightly lite, you cannot see that well what is going on in other houses. When your own house is more in the dark inside, you can see real well what is going on in your neighbor's house.
"This is just what So-and-So needs to hear" may not be the best attitude. Apply it first to yourself.
The parking area (communal space) is a different story. Lol
25 Jun 18
Originally posted by @sonshipThe Way is a person, Jesus Christ, outside of Him all others fail to please God.
This is how narrow is the way that leads to life.
No two Christians who have a problem of offended-ness between them will both enter into the kingdom to come. Either one will enter and the other will be kept out or both will be kept out.
I'm going to say it again. Then I'm going to prove it from Scripture.
How narrow is the way to life?
How co ...[text shortened]... he path to reward in the kingdom age?
How broad is the way to destruction?
See again below.
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26 Jun 18
Originally posted by @eladarTo revel in the thought of another human being going blindly to the eternal suffering of your monsterous version of god, has to be the most disgusting thing I’ve seen a poster write since sonship’s revelation that the knowledge of those eternally suffering helped him forgive those who has mistreated him.
Narrow enough that most people are not on it.
Sorry Dive
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Originally posted by @sonshipIn your opinion as a self-proclaimed “teacher” in this forum, am I precluded from salvation if I reject either your teaching on the trinity or your teaching on eternal suffering?
This is how narrow is the way that leads to life.
No two Christians who have a problem of offended-ness between them will both enter into the kingdom to come. Either one will enter and the other will be kept out or both will be kept out.
So, now we find out if this OP and the subsequent preaching is worth anything at all...
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Originally posted by @divegeesterI said to get some new tricks. We've been through all this before.
In your opinion as a self-proclaimed “teacher” in this forum, am I precluded from salvation if I reject either your teaching on the trinity or your teaching on eternal suffering?
So, now we find out if this OP and the subsequent preaching is worth anything at all...
Am I the ONLY teacher here?
Don't you do some teaching too?
You haven't elaborated on what's WRONG with being a teacher in the first place.
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26 Jun 18
Originally posted by @sonshipWow, you seem offended.
I said to get some new tricks. We've been through all this before.
Am I the ONLY teacher here?
Don't you do some teaching too?
You haven't elaborated on what's WRONG with being a teacher in the first place.
Now to your narcisistic munipulation of my views and your lying about me.
[quote]am I precluded from salvation if I reject either your te ...[text shortened]... tarian battlestations with you.
See if you can try harder to portray me as the sectarian one.
Which one of us gets in then?
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Originally posted by @sonshipIt’s a simple question hanging on your vanity sonship, a simple question you cannot give a simple answer to.
Divegeester tries some scatter shot to brute force his complaints together for possible better effectiveness.
So we untangle the two intertwined complaints and we see the obfuscation doesn't help either argument.
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Now to your narcisistic munipulation of my views and your lying about me.
am I precluded from salvation if I reject either your teaching on the trinity or your teaching on eternal suffering?
Do you bind the TWO concepts together for obfusction?
Is this scatter shot.
The complaint is actually TWO separate complaints. So let's separate them.
1.) Your first complaint is that I make discussion of the nature of the doctrine of that Trinity to be a requirement to salvation.
Not only your Trinity argument involves denying that Jesus is Lord, I don't see why Romans 10:9 would not apply.
Not being satisfied with this perfectly reasonable answer you're going to push the matter perpetually. I expect that.
You're going to, as you always do, see if you can manopulate me to give a binary Yes or No about -
"If I disagree about the Trinity with you am I lost? YES or NO."
And it is resonable for me to answer you - Not necessarily. Use Romans 10:9 as your guideline. That's a good place to start.
So you say "Then its not important to salvation."
That's your opinion perhaps because you don't think of anything else except "Do I have MY being saved?"
Maybe that is all that is important to you.
Ie. God has not other purpose but to look after Divegeeter's safety.
2.) Now your second complaint has to do with eternal punishment.
It is a lie that I ever said "If you don't agree with my interpretation of eternal punishment you can't be saved."
That's YOUR LIE.
I asked for a QUOTATION to that effect written by me.
I haven't seen you provide your evidence yet.
You have several YEARS of material to draw from.
So we untangle the TWO distinct charges and see clearly that you have no case. But I could have told you that years ago.
I will conclude this post with the quotation of Romans 10:8-10. And YOU can show me in there where a requirement about understandings of a lake of fire are demanded for salvation. Here it is.
"But what does it say? The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that is the word of faith which we proclaim.
That is you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
For with the heart there is believing unto righteousness, and with the mouth there is confession unto salvation." (Rom 10:8-10)
TRY AS YOU MAY to project YOUR sectarianism upon me, you fail. I see no insistance there that you have to confess the lake of fire and believe in your heart about the lake of fire.
Why would I make that a requirement then?
It says its about "Jesus" being Lord and God raising Jesus from the dead.
Back to the pseudo Unitarian battlestations with you.
See if you can try harder to portray me as the sectarian one.