Socialization & Religion

Originally posted by Rajk999
Jesus equates the helping of the poor and needy to helping HIM.
Would Jesus forget an atheist that helps HIM??
Jesus will bring that atheist into his Kingdom.

Thats the way I understand the teachings of Christ.
The focus of his ministry is righteousness and good works.
Faith is good IF and only IF it makes you into a more righteous person zealous of good works

If you missed that then you need to reread the Bible.

So if an atheist only helps the needy once and breaks all the other commandments of Jesus they will get a free ticket into Heaven?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So if an atheist only helps the needy once and breaks all the other commandments of Jesus they will get a free ticket into Heaven?

If you want to get specific my answer is the same. Jesus will judge all people and he was crystal clear on how he will judge.

What about Matt 25 did you not understand?

Originally posted by FMF
You're still trying to wriggle. I am not asking you about whether people can be saved by good works alone. OK? I am not asking you about that. I haven't been asking you about that, as I think you know only to well.

I am asking you - in light of the fact that you have said things like [b]"Faith without works is not genuine faith. Faith without works is ...[text shortened]... ether your belief is, in fact, that BOTH faith AND good works are needed in order to be "saved".

Why do you nitpick this man's faith when you have none yourself?

Originally posted by FMF
Starting at around what age?

I have a fairly well rounded philosophy on this.

Firstly when the child shows the level of maturity ready for this. Which means a good all round understanding of the world around. If these signs are missed a child directly asking the parent "what is god" or some other similar question would be the prompt.
I hastened to add that a parent must not blabber too much and look to the reactive body langauge of the child as whether to proceed

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
We have no ability to achieve righteousness in and of ourselves.

Did you miss that part?

Whats the point then, "I told you so"?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Did the thief on the cross do any good works?

Yes, he serves as an example of the tyranny of the people at the time

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Do you even know what you are?

Do you?

Originally posted by Suzianne
Just a hypocrite, then.

Buddhists are atheists in a sense

Originally posted by Suzianne
Why do you nitpick this man's faith when you have none yourself?

It's a forum specifically intended for talking about such things. He has made specific claims about reality here in public. "Faith" and "salvation" are the key elements of the ideology he propagates. Discussing them cannot be described as nitpicking.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So we should ignore the other words that Jesus spoke and only base our beliefs on these particular words?

If we ignored all his words and just lived by " love thy brother and sister", we'd be right.
Off course truth is simple,then man complicates it

FMF: What do you mean "one example"? There are four Gospels. What did they say about [the thief]?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Four accounts of the same story no?

Do you believe the four Gospels give four accounts of the same story pertaining to this important issue? Perhaps you can show me where they do.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
What do you understand the words of Christ "No man comes to the Father except through me." to mean?

Doesn't make sense.
Are you sure it's not "no one comes to the Father except through my example"

Originally posted by Suzianne
Why do you nitpick this man's faith when you have none yourself?

Because independent nit pickers are the best

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Doesn't make sense.
Are you sure it's not "no one comes to the Father except through my example"

Noooooooooooooo ... Then they would have to follow Christ's commandments.
Thats works.
Works is a sin
Its trying to earn your salvation.
Its evil.

Suzianne: Why do you nitpick this man's faith when you have none yourself?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Because independent nit pickers are the best

On the other thread she's going on and on and on about why I'm supposedly not curious, and here she is, trying to dismiss my fully engaged curiosity by using the word "nitpick" to describe curiosity in action. 🙂