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@sonship saidAs I’ve told you dozens of times and actually also quite recently, I am a Christian, but in reading this entire post by you, I can see why it suits your small and bitter spirituality to prefer to believe that I am not.
@divegeester
You do need the blood of Jesus.
You better avail yourself of its effectiveness to redeem you, whether by fountain or anything else poetically.
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@sonship saidWhat didn’t “come out of the mouth of Jesus”, nor indeed any of the disciples, any of the apostles, or indeed of the New or Old Testament writers was a metaphor “fountain of blood”.
Okay, let us remember the pure word of God.
Here, out of the mouth of Jesus.
"And He took a cup and gave thanks and He gave it to them , saying, Drink of it, all of you,
For this is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for forgiveness of sins." (Matt.26:27,28)
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What didn’t “come out of the mouth of Jesus”, nor indeed any of the disciples, any of the apostles, or indeed of the New or Old Testament writers was a metaphor “fountain of blood”.
Do not strain out a gnat only to swallow a camel.
He poured out His blood to establish the new covenant. (Matt. 26:26)
Out of His side (poured) or "came out" blood and water. (John 19:14)
God opened a FOUNTAIN for sin and for impurity. (Zechariah 13:1)
Peter calls this redeeming blood the PRECIOUS blood .
"Knowing that it was not with corruptible things, with silver or gold, that you were redeemed . . . But with the PRECIOUS blood of Christ;" (1 Peter 1:18)
And you are bickering because "fountain filled with blood" you don't see in the Bible? Some of us through the centuries rejoice to have our sins removed by Christ's death.
We will sing about the blood of Christ and write hymns and poems about its preciousness. If you are unhappy with our rejoicing maybe you have no joy of having your own sins washed away in the blood of Christ. He who is forgiven much loves much.
Do you agree or disagree that the blood of Christ is "precious" as the forgiven Apostle Peter wrote ?
" . . .you were redeemed from your vain manner of life handed down from your fathers . . . with the PRECIOUS BLOOD, as of a Lamb without blemish and without spot." (1 Pet. 1:19)
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The spirit with which Divegeester bickers over not finding "fountain filled with blood" in the Bible is like the complaint of Judas. Judas was bitter that the adoration poured out on Jesus by the flask of alabaster ointment was wasted, too much. He snarled that it should have been sold and the proceeds given to the poor.
Judas Iscariot types will always be bitter that lovers of Jesus so adoringly sing and praise Him to the near limit of poetic language and affection.
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@sonship saidNo one in the entire Bible mentions a “fountain of blood”.
@divegeesterWhat didn’t “come out of the mouth of Jesus”, nor indeed any of the disciples, any of the apostles, or indeed of the New or Old Testament writers was a metaphor “fountain of blood”.
Do not strain out a gnat only to swallow a camel.
He poured out His blood to establish the new covenant. (Matt. 26:26)
Out of His side (poured) or ...[text shortened]... rs . . . with the PRECIOUS BLOOD, as of a Lamb without blemish and without spot." (1 Pet. 1:19) [/b]
Blood is described in the Old and New Testaments as being “sprinkled.
Stop using made up non-biblical metaphors.
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@sonship saidI see, so not only am I a “heretic” and a “tare” I am also a type of Judas Iscariot.
The spirit with which Divegeester bickers over not finding "fountain filled with blood" in the Bible is like the complaint of Judas. Judas was bitter that the adoration poured out on Jesus by the flask of alabaster ointment was wasted, too much. He snarled that it should have been sold and the proceeds given to the poor.
Judas Iscariot types will always be bitter that ...[text shortened]... lovers of Jesus so adoringly sing and praise Him to the near limit of poetic language and affection.
Wow. You really get upset when people question your posting. I suppose I have better start reading all your stuff and believing every word you say because I don’t think I can stand you calling me more nasty names.
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Wow. You really get upset when people question your posting.
Not too much. I marvel though why you a supposed Christian (?!?!)
bicker about a song of rejoicing over the effective redemption of Christ.
Wow! Really?? You piously and sanctimoniously have a diaper rash because some Christians (SUPPOSEDLY your brothers and sisters) are happy to sing poetry about - "a fountain filled with blood . . .wash all their guilty stains".
And you now want to dress up your hypocritical Pharisaical jealousy with - "THAT's NOT in the Bible - fountain of blood ".
Did you ever read about the older brother in the story of the prodigal son?
He was bitter because his lost virtually dead brother was welcomed back to the father's house with rejoicing. He refused to go in to the celebration.
So you push and I push back on you because your undermining the redemption of Christ behind the guise of being a stickler to the text.
I suppose I have better start reading all your stuff and believing every word you say because I don’t think I can stand you calling me more nasty names.
Your maneuvers may impress somebody here. I see through the charade.
Its not the poetry of the adoring you sneer at, its the cardinal and central truth of the redemptive death of Christ which has your ire up.
I just point out to everyone here exactly WHERE your protest IS.
I'd love to be convinced that you hold dear the REDEMPTION of Christ as a truth you have personally experienced. I don't think its coming.
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At this point I would like to make an important distinction.
Unlike Catholicism we have not made a doctrine that the wine physically transubstantiates into the actual blood of Jesus. Now that is superstitious.
Christians rejoicing in a hymn about a fountain filled with blood are not going SO FAR as Catholic transubstantiation as a doctrine taught in the Bible.
The point of such a song is that in the Holy Spirit the effectiveness of ALL of Christ's work is extensive, overflowing, powerful, like a great and ever present blessing.
"There is a fountain filled with blood drawn from Emmanuel's veins.
And sinners plunge beneath the flood and lose all their guilty stains."
Dive is now saying I am making too much of it and taking it only as a personal posting matter. He's a sneaky one isn't he?
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@sonship saidYou’re wrong sonship, and because I find you to be an insufferable hypocrite and prideful cultist, I enjoy picking apart your erroneous waffle.
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I marvel though why you a supposed Christian (?!?!)
bicker about a song of rejoicing over the effective redemption of Christ.
What else you got?
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@sonship saidIt’s neither, if I was sneering (I’m not) at anything, it would have been you.
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Its not the poetry of the adoring you sneer at, its the cardinal and central truth of the redemptive death of Christ which has your ire up.
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@divegeester
Ask me if I care.
I don't bother worrying about sneers from people who profess following Christ but are ashamed of His words.
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@sonship saidYou probably care about me calling you a insufferable prideful zealot ....as much as I care about you calling me a heretic, a tare, a phoney, an enemy of Christ and threatening me with your version of Jesus burning me alive for all eternity.
@divegeester
Ask me if I care.
Meanwhile, there is no fountain of blood.
In the bible blood is sprinkled.
Try reading the Bible instead your cult’s and witness lee’s propaganda.
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@sonship saidThe “fountain of blood” are not “His words”.
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I don't bother worrying about sneers from people who profess following Christ but are ashamed of His words.
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@sonship saidYou think transubstantiation is superstitious but singing about a fountain of blood is all fine and dandy? And again, I have lost count of the ways you have spoken off consuming God.
At this point I would like to make an important distinction.
Unlike Catholicism we have not made a doctrine that the wine physically transubstantiates into the actual blood of Jesus. Now that is superstitious.
Christians rejoicing in a hymn about a fountain filled with blood are not going SO FAR as Catholic transubstantiation as a doctrine taught in the Bible.
...[text shortened]... making too much of it and taking it only as a personal posting matter. He's a sneaky one isn't he?
'Christ is our daily manna; He is our food (John 6:31-35, 48-51). The most important time to receive Christ as food is the time of morning revival (Psa. 119:147-148; 143:8; Lam. 3:22-26). We need to spend twenty to thirty minutes every day to pray-read three to five verses. When we pray-read in this way, we are eating, drinking, and enjoying God. The word is the embodiment of the Triune God. When we eat, drink, and enjoy God’s word, we eat, drink, enjoy, and assimilate God. In this way we receive God’s rich supply and His bountiful dispensing.'
The Economy and Dispensing of God - Witness Lee
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@divegeester saidDoes he ever quote the words of Christ?
The “fountain of blood” are not “His words”.