Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's just a debate and discussion forum, robbie. Opinions, analysis and beliefs ~ that's all any of us offer.
Why you should think your opinions have meaning for other people I cannot say, to me they are balloon fuel.
Look how your insistence in belief of your own propaganda attempts to project its values onto other people, allegories is your evaluation, not mine and your attempt to project those values as if they were my own is transparent, intellectual ...[text shortened]... values onto me as if they were my own.
I wish I could find something valuable in your posts.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNobody is trying to "impose" anything on you. There is no harm to anyone caused by being exposed to stuff you disagree with or don't understand.
...i would be pleased if you stopped attempting to impose your values onto me as if they were my own.
The other day I asked you "What do you think of the viewpoint of Christians who believe the earth was literally created in six days, that is to say in 144 hours?"
And your reply was "This perspective is anti Biblical, anti science and cannot be substantiated in any rational way. What is more it detracts sincere seekers of truth from the Biblical message."
This indicates that you do have some issues with people extracting an overly literal message from the Bible at least on this occasion. It was my question that drew this unequivocal statement from you. We were having a discussion there for a moment. With your Clan Forum catchphrases, repeated over and over and over again, and your attempted put downs, you sell yourself short.
Originally posted by FMFLets take a look at the situation, C Hess raises a point, the veracity of the Biblical text, he backs up his claims with references to that text, including what is extant and what is not, how it came to be preserved and to what extent, whether the original autographs exist etc etc He argues his case empirically, with reference and objectively and we all learn something.
It's just a debate and discussion forum, robbie. Opinions, analysis and beliefs ~ that's all any of us offer.
By stark contrast, you, divesgeester and that other balloonist Handy Andy make claims, the Bible is allegorical, it was used as a political weapon, its fictional etc etc not a single reference, not a single piece of empirical data, nothing but an opinion, uncorroborated , unsubstantiated and to all intents and purposes, meaningless to anyone but you. No one ever learns anything because all you are doing in is trading in opinions. Now if thats your forum style and if opinions are good enough for you then fine, but for other people, its not fine, because they are interested in learning, assimilating ideas objectively and looking at empirical evidence to establish points.
Originally posted by FMFyes but with regard to a literal interpretation of a twenty four hour period being applied to the Biblical term day i can establish my stance empirically, its not simply an uncorroborated opinion.
Nobody is trying to "impose" anything on you. There is no harm to anyone caused by being exposed to stuff you disagree with or don't understand.
The other day I asked you "What do you think of the viewpoint of Christians who believe the earth was literally created in six days, that is to say in 144 hours?"
And your reply was "This perspective is anti Bibli ...[text shortened]... s, repeated over and over and over again, and your attempted put downs, you sell yourself short.
18 Aug 14
Originally posted by lemon limeAwesome.....
He's a wolf in sheeps clothing... the only one he's fooling is himself if he thinks we can't see that.
I can almost hear Satan laughing in the background and saying "You will know the tooth, and the tooth will set you free. First I'll start with the soft fleshy parts and gnaw on the bones later. And the only thing I like better than chewing on sheep is dining on wolves... mm mm good!"
18 Aug 14
Originally posted by FMFWell not exactly. It would be great if all did that but a few here don't as history has shown.
It's just a debate and discussion forum, robbie. Opinions, analysis and beliefs ~ that's all any of us offer.
But that is not the topic of this thread so that's all I have on that.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are correct, opinions are meaningless. Now give us some proof, some hard evidence, that the Bible is factual.
Lets take a look at the situation, C Hess raises a point, the veracity of the Biblical text, he backs up his claims with references to that text, including what is extant and what is not, how it came to be preserved and to what extent, whether the original autographs exist etc etc He argues his case empirically, with reference and objectively and we ...[text shortened]... learning, assimilating ideas objectively and looking at empirical evidence to establish points.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Originally posted by HandyAndyyou keep pandering these assertions without being able to substantiate a single claim of your own. Ill substantiate my claims you substantiate yours. Your question of course makes no sense, why? because the Bible contains, history, names of rulers, dates, cities, poetry, symbolic language, prophetic language, personalities, Kings, vine dressers, fishermen, cultural aspects, customs, Roman rulers etc etc
You are correct, opinions are meaningless. Now give us some proof, some hard evidence, that the Bible is factual.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Lets take a single instance, what about Pontious Pilate are you saying that he was fictional, that he was not a roman provincial governor of Judea? No then what part of the Bibles reference to Pilate is in dispute? That he did not exist? that he was not a prefect of Judea? that he was fictional? If its not fictional then its a fact.
Archeology testifies to his existence, his prefecture etc etc etc
so tell us Randy so that we can hear you loud and clear, which aspect concerning the Biblical account of Pontious Pilate is fictional and on what basis is it fictional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilate_Stone