The Garden of Eden

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
How are we to explain your inability to accurately portray what people have said? For example stating that they have said God has told them not to smoke cigarettes?

What has your God figure told you about smoking cigarettes then?

Originally posted by FMF
Take this kind of stuff to the Clan Forum where it may work better.

How are we to explain your assuming that people are trying to be funny all the time when they are quite serious? Its simply delusional, it really is FMF.

Originally posted by FMF
What has your God figure told you about smoking cigarettes then?

Why don't you tell us FMF, you seem to know. You did state that God has told me that I should not smoke cigarettes, did you not? How did you get that information, FMF?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Why don't you tell us FMF, you seem to know. You did state that God has told me that I should not smoke cigarettes, did you not? How did you get that information, FMF?

I got it from you on this thread. Here are three examples:

robbie: "That [the Bible] does not explicitly state this in scripture is simply neither here nor there, it does not state that you should not smoke cigarettes but the discerning scholar can use what is written to form an evaluation that its a defilement of flesh and spirit, which is written in scripture."

robbie: "so you were telling us how, given the example that I cited of cigarettes why their not being explicitly mentioned in scripture has any bearing on the veracity of the claim that their use is forbidden in scripture the Christian being counselled to refrain from anything which defiles the spirit or flesh."

FMF: "If, in your personal opinion, the Bible forbids you from smoking cigarettes, then there is no reason why you should not act in accordance with that belief."

robbie: "its not my personal opinion, it can be deduced from scripture. Smoking is clearly a defilement of the flesh. The Bible counsels a Christian to avoid anything which defiles the spirit and the flesh."

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
You did state that God has told me that I should not smoke cigarettes, did you not?

If you believe your God figure has forbidden the use of cigarettes then all well and good.

Originally posted by FMF
I got it from you on this thread. Here are three examples:

robbie: [b]"That [the Bible] does not explicitly state this in scripture is simply neither here nor there, it does not state that you should not smoke cigarettes but the discerning scholar can use what is written to form an evaluation that its a defilement of flesh and spirit, which is written in scri ...[text shortened]... h. The Bible counsels a Christian to avoid anything which defiles the spirit and the flesh."[/b]

where have I stated that God has told me that I should not smoke cigarettes, that is correct, nowhere, you made it up, the product of a delusional mind. Now if you don't mind i find you rather tedious and ill be going on my way doing something less tedious than remonstrating with someone who to all intents and purposes is incapable of rational thought.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
where have I stated that God has told me that I should not smoke cigarettes, that is correct, nowhere, you made it up, the product of a delusional mind.

You explicitly claimed that use of cigarettes "is forbidden in scripture".

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Now if you don't mind i find you rather tedious and ill be going on my way doing something less tedious than remonstrating with someone who to all intents and purposes is incapable of rational thought.

Don't you like the quotes I found?

Originally posted by FMF
You explicitly claimed that use of cigarettes "is forbidden in scripture".

Hummm, I can't find where he said that. In fact I've never seen that scripture either.
Maybe you do like Divegeester and don't really read our post correctly.
Perhaps you can show where he explicity said that and the scripture he quoted?

Originally posted by galveston75
Hummm, I can't find where he said that. In fact I've never seen that scripture either.
Maybe you do like Divegeester and don't really read our post correctly.
Perhaps you can show where he explicity said that and the scripture he quoted?

You can't find it? That's odd. I gave you verbatim quotes above.

Page 64, 65, 69.

robbie states that smoking cigarettes is "anti Biblical", that it is "forbidden in scripture", and when asked about his personal opinion ~ that the Bible forbids people from smoking cigarettes ~ he states that "it can be deduced from scripture".

Originally posted by galveston75
Hummm, I can't find where he said that. In fact I've never seen that scripture either.
Maybe you do like Divegeester and don't really read our post correctly.
Perhaps you can show where he explicity said that and the scripture he quoted?

He is incapable of rational thought, seriously.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
He is incapable of rational thought, seriously.

FMF is reading quite rationally to me, in fact I'd say he was one of the most rational posters in this forum. That all you can do is repeatedly keep claiming FMF is incapable of rational thought when demonstrably he is capable of rational thought, makes you look like you have just run out of ideas.

Originally posted by galveston75
Hummm, I can't find where he said that. In fact I've never seen that scripture either.
Maybe you do like Divegeester and don't really read our post correctly.
Perhaps you can show where he explicity said that and the scripture he quoted?

Robbie carrobie brought in the "smoking cigarettes is biblically forbidden" argument to defend your still unsubstantiated claim that the tree of life was destroyed in the garden of Eden.

Robbie carrobie asserted that your claim did not need biblical scriptural support because is was completely obvious in scripture, the same way that "not being permitted to smoke cigarettes" is completely obvious in scripture.

Now it seems he is saying he didn't say that, or he is saying that it isn't clearly obvious n scripture, or some similar permutation. In any case you have both been caught out in your double standards once again but as usual as to haughty to admit when you are wrong.

We are still waiting for you to either admit that your claim about the tree is your "self certified opinion", or at it is JW certified opinion that you are regurgitating, or that you have some scripture to substantiate the claim.

Either way you clowns running around hand-flapping, wheels off the wagon and pants down, throwing insults, is just magnifiying the ridiculousness of your postion.

Originally posted by KellyJay
"... claimed temporal reality and literal presence of the Tree of Life"

Well heck, just say what you want if all it is, is a claimed temporal reality.
Kelly

"Claimed temporal reality"

Galveston claims the tree was real in this temporal world until it was destroyed.

hinds claims it was whisked up to heaven to rescue it from the flood.

Where do you reckon the Tree of Life is now then? And is it still being guarded? And if so why?

Originally posted by divegeester
"Claimed temporal reality"

Galveston claims the tree was real in this temporal world until it was destroyed.

hinds claims it was whisked up to heaven to rescue it from the flood.

Where do you reckon the Tree of Life is now then? And is it still being guarded? And if so why?

Do not know, but if it was important to God, I'm sure He could have
protected it from a little water. We have seen him do things like that
in scripture before.
Kelly