08 Oct 10
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Originally posted by Rajk999there is a chasm of a difference between God permitting the existence of evil and God being the source of evil. I do not accept your translation nor of your assertion that God is a source of evil. Also the scripture that you quoted in the book of John, quite ironically, proves that God did not cause the mans blindness, for it was the the mistaken view of the disciples that it was caused because the man or his parents were being punished by God for some misdemeanour on their part, clearly Christ stated that it was not the case. His blindness was the result of inherited imperfection, not because God is a source of evil or because he was being punished. Its a weak and wimpy Christian that states that it is.
Bad things and evil things happen because God allows them to happen. When Satan did what he did to Job, he first got Gods approval. Satan can do nothing without Gods approval.
[quote]John 9:1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he ...[text shortened]... allowing them to happen when He can stop them.
You wont get brownie points by defending God.
08 Oct 10
Originally posted by ThinkOfOnethis from the undisputed king of the straw man arguments🙄
Many besides Christians who are afraid to face the truth about themselves and their religion?
[b]edit: and your feeble attempt at rebutting my response aside, my point still stands, most people do not have a low opinion of Christians, most atheist do, though one could argue whether they are actually people
What else is new? A Christian who has t ...[text shortened]... pinion. Do you think Jesus would have shared your opinion? What was it that Gandhi said again?[/b]
08 Oct 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou people just twist everything in the Bible. Did Christ say anything about inherited imperfections? Here is what Christ :
...Christ stated that it was not the case. His blindness was the result of inherited imperfection .... .
Jesus answered, Neither did this man sin, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
So .. Christ said that the WORKS OF GOD MADE THE MAN BLIND.
Where the hell you get inherited imperfections from?
08 Oct 10
Originally posted by Rajk999ooooooor perhaps that the works of God being manifest in him would be the healing that Christ would then perform. depends on if you are a glass half full or half empty kind of guy.
You people just twist everything in the Bible. Did Christ say anything about inherited imperfections? Here is what Christ :
Jesus answered, Neither did this man sin, nor his parents: [b]but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
So .. Christ said that the WORKS OF GOD MADE THE MAN BLIND.
Where the hell you get inherited imperfections from?[/b]
08 Oct 10
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Originally posted by Rajk999you noob, you know zilch, was it not the wrong opinion of the disciples which stated that they had sinned? that it was as a consequence of the parents actions which led to the blindness? Christ clearly demonstrated that was wrong thinking? Yes Christ had come to undo not Gods works , but the works of Satan, which just about sums up how far removed you are from Christ and reality.
You people just twist everything in the Bible. Did Christ say anything about inherited imperfections? Here is what Christ :
Jesus answered, Neither did this man sin, nor his parents: [b]but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
So .. Christ said that the WORKS OF GOD MADE THE MAN BLIND.
Where the hell you get inherited imperfections from?[/b]
(1 John 3:8) . . .For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, namely, to break up the works of the Devil.
The miracle itself was simply a demonstration that Christ was being used by God to accomplish his purpose, for if you read the entire chapter, it becomes self evident that the blind man held Jesus as a prophet!
08 Oct 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieRaj read a few scriptures and put the pieces together? Hummmmm? I hope someday maybe.
you noob, you know zilch, was it not the wrong opinion of the disciples which stated that they had sinned? that it was as a consequence of the parents actions which led to the blindness? Christ clearly demonstrated that was wrong thinking? Yes Christ had come to undo not Gods works , but the works of Satan, which just about sums up how far removed ...[text shortened]... you read the entire chapter, it becomes self evident that the blind man held Jesus as a prophet!
08 Oct 10
Originally posted by galveston75Lol, perhaps a Watchtower mag shall fall from the sky and hit him on the head, failing that, he might find bible tract in a bottle, washed up on the beach - anything will do.
Raj read a few scriptures and put the pieces together? Hummmmm? I hope someday maybe.
08 Oct 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIm tired of trying to educate you dunces. I will just leave you to wallow in your stupidity.
you noob, you know zilch, was it not the wrong opinion of the disciples which stated that they had sinned? that it was as a consequence of the parents actions which led to the blindness? Christ clearly demonstrated that was wrong thinking? Yes Christ had come to undo not Gods works , but the works of Satan, which just about sums up how far removed ...[text shortened]... you read the entire chapter, it becomes self evident that the blind man held Jesus as a prophet!
08 Oct 10
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Originally posted by duecerLet's look at some of what you've said thus far:
this from the undisputed king of the straw man arguments🙄
"if you can combine the number of atheists and the number of Muslims who have a low opinion of Christians, I'd say the number world wide is a small fraction (most Muslims do not hate us).
"Low opinion" and "hate" are not the same thing. Straw man.
"my point still stands, most people do not have a low opinion of Christians".
"so many" and "most" are not the same thing. Straw man again.
Above are two examples of your creating a straw man. Even at that I wouldn't crown you the "king of straw man arguments", no less the "undisputed king".
So if you're going to make the accusation, you're going to have to come up with at least three examples.
Are there any Christians on this forum that can speak intelligently or function above that of a thirteen year old?
09 Oct 10
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneI reject the premise of your argument. Why must I come up with 3 examples? Because you say so? If I come up with 100 will you shut up and go away?
Let's look at some of what you've said thus far:
"if you can combine the number of atheists and the number of Muslims who have a low opinion of Christians, I'd say the number world wide is a small fraction (most Muslims do not hate us).
"Low opinion" and "hate" are not the same thing. Straw man.
"my point still stands, most people do not have a low ...[text shortened]... that can speak intelligently or function above that of a thirteen year old?
09 Oct 10
Originally posted by duecerHard to believe anyone's really that dim. What's much more likely is that you're just making one inane post after another in order to continue to avoid meaningfully discussing the issue of God endorsing slavery in the OT, just as you earlier avoided the issue of Jesus teaching that is possible for a human to stop committing sin in the "10 Commandments" thread.
I reject the premise of your argument. Why must I come up with 3 examples? Because you say so? If I come up with 100 will you shut up and go away?
As for coming up with 100, go for it.