The Jesus Question

Originally posted by @suzianne
Abortion is not mentioned in the Bible.

So it's OK, then, is it, according to your Christian beliefs? I am not talking about your political beliefs. I am talking about your Christian beliefs. Because the word "abortion" is not mentioned in the Bible, carrying out one is not "sinful", according to your faith and beliefs, is that right?

Originally posted by @suzianne
Wild West? Are you sure you aren't over-emphasizing this in order to score a point (with whom, I don't know)?

I am responding to your description of 'breaking your fair share of bar tables' (small quotation marks) which conjures up images of bar brawls and people falling through tables.

Perhaps it is you who is "over-emphasizing" in order to score a point...?

Originally posted by @suzianne
Even in the better parts of town, there are men who think they can just grab women, I've stopped letting my fear keep me from going where I need to go to help someone. It's not like I go looking for trouble either. It just keeps finding me. And yeah, men are bastards that way.

Where I live there are pubs or clubs which i would not go into because of the reputation of the place; I simply choose not to go into them and I wouldn't want to anyway. It has nothing to do with fear and more to do with common sense and venue fit.

It seems strange that you would go into places where you suspect this behavior would occur and even have to overcome your fear in order to do so and subsequently end up getting into a bar brawl because something unpleasant has happened. To then come into this forum and call men "bastards" because this happens to you repeatedly seems almost laughable and makes your story sound a little...embellished, to say the least.

Originally posted by @suzianne
You can disbelieve me all you want, it makes zero difference to me.

OK.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Must we ride this carousel one more time?

Abortion is not mentioned in the Bible.

But the Bible IS sexist, to the point of treating women as some kind of second-class citizen, at best. I wouldn't exactly recommend it for its advice on how a woman should act. Most women in the Bible were treated as though their highest calling was to be baref ...[text shortened]... n. Of course there were exceptions, but not for the vast majority.

But you knew that.

Would you not consider sacrificing infant children to Molech abortion? Hundreds of thousands if not millions of babies were murdered in a most heinous way.

How many millions of babies have to die before it dawns on people that there is a holocaust occurring under our noses? More babies killed in the last 40 years than all the American soldiers who died in every war since the American revolution.

The memorial that has the names of the soldiers killed in Vietnam is some 500 foot long. If such a memorial to the babies was erected it would over 80 miles long.

Abortion is insane.

Sexism in the Bible? It's everywhere. But you should inquire of ThinkOfOne about it. I'm sure he'll characterize God as condoning it.

Originally posted by @suzianne
And you're over-reacting, as usual.

I've been in a LOT of bars, from high-class places at hotels all the way down to pool halls with a biker clientele, and I can still count the number of real multi-person bar fights I've been in on two hands, and the number of bar tables I've smashed on one. Most bar 'disagreements' are only one or two quick jabs or a hold, if that. Some people are stubborn, however.

How am I over-reacting?

You are the one publishing these almost comic-strip accounts of your life consisting of multiple bar fights triggered by sexual abuse in places where you use martial arts to deal with horrible situations of which you've overcome your fear of going into in the first place...not to mention your claims of saving uncountable lives on the pavements of your home town and even being visited by groups of angels.

Originally posted by @secondson
Would you not consider sacrificing infant children to Molech abortion? Hundreds of thousands if not millions of babies were murdered in a most heinous way.

How many millions of babies have to die before it dawns on people that there is a holocaust occurring under our noses? More babies killed in the last 40 years than all the American soldiers who die ...[text shortened]... But you should inquire of ThinkOfOne about it. I'm sure he'll characterize God as condoning it.

Sexism in the Bible? It's everywhere. But you should inquire of ThinkOfOne about it. I'm sure he'll characterize God as condoning it.

Evidently since your position does not hold up under the light of truth and you cannot rationally defend it, you resort to making false claims about others.

The reality is that In Leviticus 25:44-46 God is depicted as clearly and unambiguously condoning chattel slavery. That's just a fact.

That fact doesn't square with your conceptions of a just God and the Bible being the inerrant word of God. Either one or both of your conceptions are wrong. You hate admitting that truth.

"The truth will make you free".

Originally posted by @secondson
Would you not consider sacrificing infant children to Molech abortion? Hundreds of thousands if not millions of babies were murdered in a most heinous way.

How many millions of babies have to die before it dawns on people that there is a holocaust occurring under our noses? More babies killed in the last 40 years than all the American soldiers who die ...[text shortened]... But you should inquire of ThinkOfOne about it. I'm sure he'll characterize God as condoning it.

Although it is a complex matter, rather than sit on the fence on this one I would side with it being wrong. So thumbs up.

Originally posted by @divegeester
How am I over-reacting?

You are the one publishing these almost comic-strip accounts of your life consisting of multiple bar fights triggered by sexual abuse in places where you use martial arts to deal with horrible situations of which you've overcome your fear of going into in the first place...not to mention your claims of saving uncountable lives on the pavements of your home town and even being visited by groups of angels.

Its the American Christian female lifestyle... lol

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
On to your 4th Dan already hey? - For the benefit of other forum regulars, I will now give a short synopsis of the first 3 Dans:

1. Dan Aykroyd. - You met him in a bar, shortly after his filming of Ghostbusters. He made the grave error of comparing you to Shelly Marsh and felt the full force of your upper cut.
2. Dan Snow. - You met him in a bar ...[text shortened]... o mention how much you reminded him of Shelly Marsh and found himself hurled through the window.

She is on the 4th

4. Dan Key - that is what she is. 😀

Originally posted by @divegeester
I'm responding to what Suzianne wrote about her experiences of getting into bar fights

Endless bars and heavy drinking.

Very sad.

Originally posted by @whodey
Endless bars and heavy drinking.

Very sad.

What’s sadder is her judging people based on politics and her simplistic “white hat, black hat” view of politicians and people who agree with or support them, however non-commitally or casually.

Originally posted by @divegeester
This is starting to sound like the old chaney3 again.

Not so.
I was just having a little fun with Suzianne's passionate posts.
All is well.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Not so.
I was just having a little fun with Suzianne's passionate posts.
All is well.

Good to hear.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Not kickboxing. (Geez...) Karate, with emphasis in bojutsu. I am now 4th Dan. I've also received training in skills definitely outside of traditional karate. If you knew my whole story, you'd know why I have taken this path. I don't like to call attention to it, but every single time I mention it casually, there are always insecure people who want to try to "call me out" on it, so I end up explaining, again.

I am aware of your story, and made no connection to it with my lighthearted comments on your ass kicking skills.

Just wanted you to know that.