The Jesus Question

Originally posted by @divegeester
You’ve been in bar fights with men trying to sexually assault you?

Not necessary dive.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Suzianne has publicly said that she trains in kickboxing and that she works out. She just described herself in action, "kickin ass" when it was deemed necessary.

C'mon....sexy indeed.

Not kickboxing. (Geez...) Karate, with emphasis in bojutsu. I am now 4th Dan. I've also received training in skills definitely outside of traditional karate. If you knew my whole story, you'd know why I have taken this path. I don't like to call attention to it, but every single time I mention it casually, there are always insecure people who want to try to "call me out" on it, so I end up explaining, again.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Yes. (in response to: you have been in bar fights with men trying to sexually assault you?) Have you?

I don’t hang out in places where I’m likely to get sexually assulted and if I did I doubt I would end up “breaking more than my share of bar tables” in a series of Wild West style brawls.

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
Not necessary dive.

I'm responding to what Suzianne wrote about her experiences of getting into bar fights

Originally posted by @divegeester
I don’t hang out in places where I’m likely to get sexually assulted and if I did I doubt I would end up “breaking more than my share of bar tables” in a series of Wild West style brawls.

Wild West? Are you sure you aren't over-emphasizing this in order to score a point (with whom, I don't know)?

In some places, yes, in America, there are places that aren't safe for most women. Even in the better parts of town, there are men who think they can just grab women, because most women are afraid and a lot of men are pussies who would just let their women get felt up without "causing a scene". I've stopped letting my fear keep me from going where I need to go to help someone. It's not like I go looking for trouble either. It just keeps finding me. And yeah, men are bastards that way.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Suzianne also says that she has lost count of the people who’s lives she has saved on the pavement with CPR and that she has been visited by angels who spoke with her.

You can disbelieve me all you want, it makes zero difference to me.

Originally posted by @chaney3
She's gonna kick your ass Dive.

Not helping.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Is that position based on the Bible?

I think he's right.

If the deity of Jesus were that important, the Bible would have been more clear on that point.

I happen to think Jesus is God, but I'm guessing there will be Unitarians in the hereafter. Just like there will also be people who were under the impression that eternal torment is real. I do not believe that either belief will keep one from the Kingdom of God. We'll all find out the truth soon enough.

But yes, sincerity is more important than either facet of dogma.

Originally posted by @divegeester
I'm responding to what Suzianne wrote about her experiences of getting into bar fights

And you're over-reacting, as usual.

I've been in a LOT of bars, from high-class places at hotels all the way down to pool halls with a biker clientele, and I can still count the number of real multi-person bar fights I've been in on two hands, and the number of bar tables I've smashed on one. Most bar 'disagreements' are only one or two quick jabs or a hold, if that. Some people are stubborn, however.

Originally posted by @romans1009
I’m pro life so I don’t agree with her stance on that.

I have to be clear here that I am not "pro-abortion".

I am "pro-choice". No one presumes to tell men what they can do (or not do) with their own bodies. I've never had an abortion, but there is no way on this green earth that I am going to stand in the way of a woman who feels that such a choice is right for her.

Originally posted by @suzianne
I am "pro-choice". No one presumes to tell men what they can do (or not do) with their own bodies. I've never had an abortion, but there is no way on this green earth that I am going to stand in the way of a woman who feels that such a choice is right for her.

Is this stance supportable Biblically?

Originally posted by @chaney3
Yes, I am sincere.

I just want to know the true identity of Jesus. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

As of now, I'm uncertain of who He is.

Why don't you just ask him?

"If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man [is] unstable in all his ways." - James 1:5-8, KJV

Originally posted by @fmf
Is this stance supportable Biblically?

Must we ride this carousel one more time?

Abortion is not mentioned in the Bible.

But the Bible IS sexist, to the point of treating women as some kind of second-class citizen, at best. I wouldn't exactly recommend it for its advice on how a woman should act. Most women in the Bible were treated as though their highest calling was to be barefoot and pregnant and nothing more than a servant for some man. Of course there were exceptions, but not for the vast majority.

But you knew that.

Originally posted by @suzianne

Not kickboxing. (Geez...) Karate, with emphasis in bojutsu. I am now 4th Dan.

On to your 4th Dan already hey? - For the benefit of other forum regulars, I will now give a short synopsis of the first 3 Dans:

1. Dan Aykroyd. - You met him in a bar, shortly after his filming of Ghostbusters. He made the grave error of comparing you to Shelly Marsh and felt the full force of your upper cut.
2. Dan Snow. - You met him in a bar, just after one of his history broadcasts for the BBC. Foolishly he drew attention to your similarity with Shelly Marsh and received a firm chop to the back of the neck.
3. Dan Brown. - You met him in a bar, shortly after the release of his new book 'Inferno.' Things were going swimmingly...until he happened to mention how much you reminded him of Shelly Marsh and found himself hurled through the window.

Originally posted by @suzianne
You can disbelieve me all you want, it makes zero difference to me.

I believe you suzianne.