We are Body, Soul and Spirit

Originally posted by galveston75
I don't either and you are to blind to know what any of it means and the differance of common sence. I think you are on top of the list of anyone I've known that has gotten so many doctrines, man made ideas and pagan beliefs so mixed up and has made more of a fool of yourself by trying to explain them then anyone I've ever known.
I guess you haven't no ...[text shortened]... sappear at times when you are spouting off this nonsence?
Actually, just why are you here?

I am only quoting from real translations from the Holy Scriptures, but if the
NWT does not say the same, I wonder how the watchtower has changed them.

Originally posted by JS357
Thanks, although if I get to replace words, I prefer the following, also from http://bible.cc/isaiah/26-9.htm

New Living Translation (©2007)
"All night long I search for you; in the morning I earnestly seek for God. For only when you come to judge the earth will people learn what is right."

I would get rid of the artificial distinctions of soul, body, s esses, without conjuring up a magical thing called the soul for people to bicker over.

The soul is not conjured up by me. So maybe you should blame someone like
the apostle Paul for doing the conjuring.

P.S. Or maybe accuse Christ of conjuring up souls because He said, "Do not
fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him
who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew 10:28 NASB)

http://bible.cc/matthew/10-28.htm

Originally posted by RJHinds
The soul is not conjured up by me. So maybe you should blame someone like
the apostle Paul for doing the conjuring.

P.S. Or maybe accuse Christ of conjuring up souls because He said, "Do not
fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him
who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew 10:28 NASB)

http://bible.cc/matthew/10-28.htm

I'm not blaming or accusing. It's a figure of speech. I can't imagine that Jesus would have spent this much time on what part of us is doing something, rather than spending it on what we -- I, you, not my soul, your spirit, that guy's physical self, are doing with our lives. If having the right beliefs about this in all its details is essential to being a good Christian, I'm surprised and disappointed with the teachings being presented. It does seem to be so important to you all, that you are almost calling one another infidels over such details. Sorry, just have to unload that. Back to normal now.

Originally posted by JS357
I'm not blaming or accusing. It's a figure of speech. I can't imagine that Jesus would have spent this much time on what part of us is doing something, rather than spending it on what we -- I, you, not my soul, your spirit, that guy's physical self, are doing with our lives. If having the right beliefs about this in all its details is essential to being a good ne another infidels over such details. Sorry, just have to unload that. Back to normal now.

You can poo-poo it all you want now. And I suspect you will have much more
time to poo-poo how important it is after your body dies and is put in the grave
and you look up from hell like the rich man and ponder the meaning of the soul.
Christ's time was spent on what we do in the body. That is why He died in the
body and why he will judge us for what we did while in the body. He proved to
the Pharisees that if they destroyed His bodily temple He would rise it up again
in three days. He needed three days because he was going to make a quick
trip to paradise in the third Heaven to meet up with the crucified theif and return
to Hell to preach to the prisoners there including the disobedient spirit beings.
(1 Peter 3:19)

It is the Muslims that call the unbelievers in Islam "infidels" not us Christians.
Christ tells us, "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the
soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
(Matthew 10:28 NASB)

Originally posted by RJHinds
It is the Muslims that call the unbelievers in Islam "infidels" not us Christians.

Not so, RJHinds. According to wiki, an infidel - literally "one without faith" - is one who has no religious beliefs, or who doubts or rejects the central tenets of a particular religion – especially in reference to Christianity or Islam. The word "Infidel" is an ecclesiastical term in Christianity around which the Church developed a body of theology that deals with the concept of infidelity, which makes a clear differentiation between those who were baptized and followed the teachings of the Church versus those who are outside the faith. The term infidel was used by Christians to describe non-Christians or those perceived as the enemies of Christianity. The usage of the term for non-Christian monotheists distinguishes the term from heathen or pagan. As such, the term infidel has often been applied to atheists, whose disbelief is viewed negatively by both Christianity and Islam.

Originally posted by FMF
Not so, RJHinds. According to wiki, an infidel - literally "one without faith" - is one who has no religious beliefs, or who doubts or rejects the central tenets of a particular religion – especially in reference to Christianity or Islam. The word "Infidel" is an ecclesiastical term in Christianity around which the Church developed a body of theology that deals ...[text shortened]... en applied to atheists, whose disbelief is viewed negatively by both Christianity and Islam.

No Christian that I know uses that term and I do not use it for unbelievers.

Originally posted by RJHinds
No Christian that I know uses that term and I do not use it for unbelievers.

Well, regardless of what your demonstrably (and seemingly proudly) narrow view on many things has allowed you to "know" or not know, it doesn't turn your error into a true statement.

In fact, the topic is actually quite a lot more interesting than your self-serving, mistaken take on it would have us believe. Wiki explains that "Infidel" is the English language word commonly used to translate the equivalent Arabic language word for non-Muslims, "kafir", [which] is usually translated as "disbeliever" [..] In the Islamic doctrinal sense, the term only refers to a person who does not recognize the one God (Allah) such as atheists and polytheists.

However, since Islam considers Jews and Christians as fellow believers they are called "People of the Book (Ahl-e-kitab)" instead. Kafir, like infidel, has also come to be regarded as offensive, thus some Muslim scholars discourage its use due to the Quran's command to use kind words. It is even a punishable offense to use this term against a Jew or a Christian, under Islamic law. Some contemporary Muslim extremists, however, have applied the term to all non-Muslims.

You should look into this topic.

Originally posted by FMF
Well, regardless of what your demonstrably (and seemingly proudly) narrow view on many things has allowed you to "know" or not know, it doesn't turn your error into a true statement.

In fact, the topic is actually quite a lot more interesting than your self-serving, mistaken take on it would have us believe. Wiki explains that "Infidel" is the English ...[text shortened]... wever, have applied the term to all non-Muslims.

You should look into this topic.

I am not interested to look into a anti-Christ and Satanic religion.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not interested to look into a anti-Christ and Satanic religion.

You mention Islam so often, and you have started countless threads on Islam, I just assumed you'd be interested in some information about it, even if it was something you did not expect or something that contradicts your preconceived notions. You do seem to think about it a lot. Even if the info is unwelcome to you, it does no harm for you to have heard it, on that - at least - I am sure we can agree.

Originally posted by FMF
You mention Islam so often, and you have started countless threads on Islam, I just assumed you'd be interested in some information about it, even if it was something you did not expect or something that contradicts your preconceived notions. You do seem to think about it a lot. Even if the info is unwelcome to you, it does no harm for you to have heard it, on that - at least - I am sure we can agree.

I already know enough about Islam to know Mohammed is a false prophet,
the Koran or Quran is not a book inspired of God, Allah is not the God of
Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, and Islam is an anti-Christ religion with the
influence of Satan. That is enough for me.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I already know enough about Islam to know Mohammed is a false prophet,
the Koran or Quran is not a book inspired of God, Allah is not the God of
Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, and Islam is an anti-Christ religion with the
influence of Satan. That is enough for me.

Whether you want to proclaim your own religion or denounce someone else's, knowledge and understanding - with a pinch of objectivity, too, perhaps - will never do your advocacy any harm.

Your little slip up over the word "infidel" suggests not-so-little gaps in your knowledge about your own religion, and in your knowledge about the religion you were presumably trying to attack.

Of course, when it comes down to it, your credibility as a commentator is something for you - and you alone - to take responsibility for. Just saying, that's all.

Originally posted by jaywill
The spirit, soul and body of man are created by God to interact with three different realms.

1.) The body of man interacts with the physical universe.

2.) The soul of man interacts with the psychological world of other minds.

3.) The spirit of man substantiates the spiritual world.

So God created man to be able to "touch" these three realms ation free from [b]"the bondage of corruption".[/b]

This is incorrect.

The soul and the spirit is the same thing.

That only leaves us with the soul and the body.

The soul does not interact with others - because the soul is asleep and has given power of attorney over to the mind and body and false ego and material intelligence and the sense,s.

The materialistic person with his body is only a puppet in the hands of the material energy and the soul is sleeping.

If the soul was not sleeping and did not give the power of attorney over to the body - then the world that we would be experiencing would be a different world - where people would behave Godly all of the time being in full awareness of themselves and God.

Because the soul is sleeping - then the body and mind and senses are out of control with lust and greed and anger and ignorance - and we have the crazy world we have.

To wake up the sleeping soul - we have to embrace true religion and raise the consciousness so the soul actually has the power of attorney like it once had long ago.

This is why true religion and spirituality is so important.

The soul shall keep taking birth in this material world - over and over again unless we take to living in accordance with true religion which in turn shall wake up the sleeping soul.

This sleeping characteristic of the soul is called Maya or illusion and the soul is dreaming this material life he experiences..........and that is why it is ultimately meaningless.

The soul/you - accepted this sleeping condition long ago so you could enjoy this materialistic illusion of this temporary world far away from God..

This is why we are all here in this world of suffering to begin with...........because we wanted to be the Supreme ourselves and you can witness this all going on yourself and watch everyone trying to be the greatest or the biggest or the best or the wealthiest and so on.

When the soul is liberated from this dreaming condition - that is when true joy, love, bliss and eternality is enjoyed.

Originally posted by Dasa
This is incorrect.

The soul and the spirit is the same thing.

That only leaves us with the soul and the body.

The soul does not interact with others - because the soul is asleep and has given power of attorney over to the mind and body and false ego and material intelligence and the sense,s.

The materialistic person with his body is only a puppet i ...[text shortened]... ted from this dreaming condition - that is when true joy, love, bliss and eternality is enjoyed.

do you think it is possible to be not spiritual and not be materialistic?

Originally posted by Dasa
This is incorrect.

The soul and the spirit is the same thing.

That only leaves us with the soul and the body.

The soul does not interact with others - because the soul is asleep and has given power of attorney over to the mind and body and false ego and material intelligence and the sense,s.

The materialistic person with his body is only a puppet i ...[text shortened]... ted from this dreaming condition - that is when true joy, love, bliss and eternality is enjoyed.

This is incorrect.

The soul and the spirit is the same thing.

Well, I believe the Bible. And the Bible has the soul of man as not equal the spirit of man. And I am rather SURE that this is the case.

Human soul, in biblical terms, is not the human spirit.

That only leaves us with the soul and the body.

The soul does not interact with others - because the soul is asleep and has given power of attorney over to the mind and body and false ego and material intelligence and the sense,s.

I agree with you that the "higher" part of man is the soul. But the spirit is higher still.

Also, there are latent powers in the soul that were buried deep in her at the fall of man.

Various disciplines have been devised by cultures to unleashe this latent soul power, especially in the east. And some practicioners are able to do with their soul power, some unusual things.

All of this is, however, aside from the human spirit.

I have to continue latter. But you probably would not like what I would say because I am a Bible believing Christian.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You can poo-poo it all you want now. And I suspect you will have much more
time to poo-poo how important it is after your body dies and is put in the grave
and you look up from hell like the rich man and ponder the meaning of the soul.
Christ's time was spent on what we do in the body. That is why He died in the
body and why he will judge us for what w ...[text shortened]... rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
(Matthew 10:28 NASB)

Me: "...you are almost calling one another infidels over such details"

You: "It is the Muslims that call the unbelievers in Islam "infidels" not us Christians. "

Me: I said "almost." But would you buy "heretics?" That would do, for the intent of my statement. I'm not prideful about my choice of words. I am imperfect.