What is a “bible believing Christian”?

@fmf said
I am not religious and I don't believe that the scripture from your religion sheds light on "the truth" other than it states a subjective perspective shared by adherents of your religion.

I understand that, but the reality and truth of something is not dependent on you believing in it. It exists independently of you.

God, for example, exists whether you believe He does or not. Everyone on the planet could be an atheist and that wouldn’t affect the reality and truthfulness of God’s existence one bit.

@savedbygrace said
I understand that, but the reality and truth of something is not dependent on you believing in it. It exists independently of you.

If this is, in your estimation, an "argument" that corroborates your perspective about "the truth", then it is nothing different from the dog-eared rhetorical riff that KellyJay trots out.

@savedbygrace said
God, for example, exists whether you believe He does or not.

Fact 1: The God figure you believe in may or may not exist. Your belief that it certainly does exist does not alter Fact 1.

@savedbygrace said
Everyone on the planet could be an atheist and that wouldn’t affect the reality and truthfulness of God’s existence one bit.

Everyone on the planet could be a practising Jew: it wouldn't mean the Jewish God figure is real.

@fmf said
Fact 1: The God figure you believe in may or may not exist. Your belief that it certainly does exist does not alter Fact 1.

I don’t agree. God’s existence is not dependent upon humans confirming or denying it.

@fmf said
Everyone on the planet could be a practising Jew: it wouldn't mean the Jewish God figure is real.

Do you think the existence (or non-existence) of something is dependent upon human belief and/or acknowledgment?

@savedbygrace said
God’s existence is not dependent upon humans confirming or denying it.

Exactly. We humans can only engage in conjecture about its existence and we do it because it is in our nature to do so.

@savedbygrace said
Do you think the existence (or non-existence) of something is dependent upon human belief and/or acknowledgment?

Of course not. It's a silly thing to suggest.

@divegeester said
I get slated in here because I take what I feel is an eclectic view of biblical scripture. Because I purposefully choose reject the what I see as being accounts of behaviour or direction (directly or indirectly) to behave in a morally reprehensible way.

Why is this a bad thing?

I still internalise and focus on what I believe are the accounts of and direction toward ...[text shortened]... lationship between creator and creation.

I am therefore a “bible believing Christian”, am I not?

To be full of verbiage is not the same as to be filled with Christ.

@kevin-eleven said
To be full of verbiage is not the same as to be filled with Christ.

True.

Not that you know sweet FA about it either way.

@divegeester said
True.

Not that you know sweet FA about it either way.

Do you?

@kellyjay said
Do you?

Yes.

@divegeester said
No that’s not what I believe.

But thanks for rocking up with some scorn.

You started this thread with scorn, you hypocrite!

@divegeester said
It’s interesting to note how you don’t challenge KellyJay on his incoherent, unbiblical, amoral assertions relating to abortion, capital punishment and eternal suffering…

But you choose to attack me instead.

Why is that?

It is what it is.

I hear it enough from other mainstream Christians.

I'm not changing their minds.

Why do you come in here, tilting at the same windmills every day?

To showcase your scorn, that's why.

@divegeester said
Because she’s a unprincipled and partisan, that’s why!

Because I disagree with you.

Your beat goes on.