19 Aug 19
@philokalia saidI have no need to "prove" it to anyone. Post as you see fit. Run away from what you want. "Stay to the end" of what you want.
I'm asking you prove your claim and stating that I'll come and stay to the end.
19 Aug 19
@philokalia saidI have put all manner of observations, responses and questions - on a whole range of topics - to you, and so often you have used 'Reply' rather than 'Quote' so that you didn't have to address what I'd said. The things I am interested in debating are in those blanked-out posts. You should put the things you are interested in debating in OPs and kick off new threads with them. I am not interested in your creepy proposals about going cam2cam.
I don't need reply number 15 of restating the same unfounded claim or "what are you on about."
19 Aug 19
@fmf saidOh God no, that isn't my suggestion.
I have put all manner of observations, responses and questions - on a whole range of topics - to you, and so often you have used 'Reply' rather than 'Quote' so that you didn't have to address what I'd said. The things I am interested in debating are in those blanked-out posts. You should put the things you are interested in debating in OPs and kick off new threads with them. I am not interested in your creepy proposals about going cam2cam.
My suggestion is to have a real time debate on a voice over internet protocol service, something that is incredibly common.
You are twisting my words.
19 Aug 19
@fmf saidI have ignored posts that are just repetitive or off topic questions from you.
I have put all manner of observations, responses and questions - on a whole range of topics - to you, and so often you have used 'Reply' rather than 'Quote' so that you didn't have to address what I'd said. The things I am interested in debating are in those blanked-out posts. You should put the things you are interested in debating in OPs and kick off new threads with them. I am not interested in your creepy proposals about going cam2cam.
Please, tell me what things you want me to address.
Tell me what you ar accusing me of running away from specifically so I can confront them.
As previously stated
Put up or shut up.
19 Aug 19
Tell me what you want me to cover and that I've run away from, or let's even have a voice to voice debate and put it up on a video or audio platform and let the forum hear us speak about the topic.If you want to see me on a webcam, send me a PM and I will deal with your request appropriately. Please take your creepy stuff out of the public arena.
19 Aug 19
@philokalia saidGo back and look for yourself. It's not as if isn't a conscious decision on your part. It happens all the time. It's an integral part of your style. Having said that, you should post as you see fit.
Tell me what you ar accusing me of running away from specifically so I can confront them.
19 Aug 19
@philokalia saidI find the suggestion - from a poster like you - to be completely creepy.
My suggestion is to have a real time debate on a voice over internet protocol service, something that is incredibly common.
19 Aug 19
@philokalia saidPut any such suggestions in PMs and send them to my inbox.
Oh God no, that isn't my suggestion.
19 Aug 19
@philokalia saidPost as you see fit.
Bruh, if you ever, ever want to have a debate, let's have it.
Until then, I'm done. You're just going into the Dive category for me.
I have spent way too much time discussing forum drama and interpersonal baloney with you.
When you want to put up, we'll debate.
Until then, take care.
19 Aug 19
@philokalia saidEvery single time you blanked posts out, it was me picking a topic or an idea I wanted to talk about. Every single time. You seem to have a bit of the Fetchmyjunk syndrome.
Continue making empty statements about how I run away while you refuse to pick a topic and stand your ground.
19 Aug 19
@secondson saidThe passage says nothing about having faith in works. There is no such reference in any part of the bible. The man was a Jew. I have never yet come across a statement that Jew who adheres to the Law of Moses has no faith. Thats more church nonsense.
The faith he had was in his works, and not the faith to part with his possessions and follow Jesus.
The passage is clear about that, and you know it. I'm right and you're wrong. You lost the debate you started, and that's why, as usual, you resort to name calling, again.
The definition of faith is belief in God.
The man therefore had faith.
Show me another definition of faith in the bible that supports your interpretation.
19 Aug 19
@rajk999 saidHere are some quotations concerning hypocritical behavior in religion, which could be thought of as the misuse of faith in order to give the appearance of fulfilling the law - two right from Jesus Christ Himself, because I know that you hold such little respect for the rest of the Bible:
The passage says nothing about having faith in works. There is no such reference in any part of the bible. The man was a Jew. I have never yet come across a statement that Jew who adheres to the Law of Moses has no faith. Thats more church nonsense.
The definition of faith is belief in God.
The man therefore had faith.
Show me another definition of faith in the bible that supports your interpretation.
Matthew 6:5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
Matthew 23:23Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
What are the weightier matters of the law? Clearly, they seem to be the spirit of the law.
20 Aug 19
@philokalia saidMisuse of faith? Never heard of that. Faith is simply a verbal expression of belief in God. There is faith and there is good works. Good works has no hypocrisy in it otherwise it is not good, and only Jesus can judge what is good and what is not.
Here are some quotations concerning hypocritical behavior in religion, which could be thought of as the misuse of faith in order to give the appearance of fulfilling the law - two right from Jesus Christ Himself, because I know that you hold such little respect for the rest of the Bible:
[quote]Matthew 6:5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: f ...[text shortened]... are the weightier matters of the law? Clearly, they seem to be the spirit of the law.
I have great respect for the entire bible but Jesus Christ has the words of eternal life. Not Fr Chat .. etc. Bear that in mind.
Dont understand your other questions / statements.