What will be the fuel?

Originally posted by @fmf
I don't deny for one minute that there is something we can call "church history" and I don't deny the impact it has had on Western history. I don't deny these things. I'm just not a Christian, that's all.

Oh.
You're not a Christian, that's all.

Oh.

Hey, Not a Christian That's all, why is an eternally existing universe that has not dissipated by now Oh So Much More rationale than one created by a supernatural Creator who transcends the laws of nature?

Why is it so much more rationale to believe your uncreated and eternal material universe ?

Originally posted by @sonship
That could just be a self love which nothing else in existence effects. So everything is all the same to you.

On the contrary. I find the world, its peoples, its cultures, its religions and the innumerable facets of the human condition that it displays to be richly diverse and I am most certainly affected by it.

Originally posted by @sonship
Hey Not a Christian That's all, why is an eternally existing universe that has not dissipated by now Oh So Much More rationale than one created by a supernatural Creator who transcends the laws of nature?

I have already responded to this. I understand that my response will contribute to me getting tortured for all eternity according to your theology. Good grief, I hope you are wrong about that. It sounds really awful ~ presumably on purpose.

Originally posted by @fmf
On the contrary. I find the world, its peoples, its cultures, its religions and the innumerable facets of the human condition that it displays to be richly diverse and I am most certainly affected by it.

That's a nice philosophy.
You still get an F in explaining your atheism is more rationale than belief in God and God become a man in Jesus Christ.

Let me warn you. I will not chat like this all day.
Get your "run away from my argument" hat on because boredom is beginning to set in.

Or I am going to another thread which I find a profitable and constructive discussion.

Argument by boredom - wins every time !

Originally posted by @sonship
Why is it so much more rationale to believe your uncreated and eternal material universe ?

I don't know what the age or the origin of the universe is. Neither do you. You don't have to say you 'don't know' if you don't want to. I am not asking you to emulate me or adopt my beliefs.

Originally posted by @sonship
You still get an F in explaining your atheism is more rationale than belief in God and God become a man in Jesus Christ.

I am an atheist with regard to all religions, sonship, not just yours.

Originally posted by @sonship
Let me warn you. I will not chat like this all day.

I don't want or need you to. You can behave however you want. I started a thread about what I thought was the most interesting and revealing thing you said yesterday. It will suffice.

Originally posted by @fmf
I have already responded to this. I understand that my response will contribute to me getting tortured for all eternity according to your theology. Good grief, I hope you are wrong about that. It sounds really awful ~ presumably on purpose.

Its torture enough just to have to wake up with that kind of head you have.

Did you explain what STANDARD you measure what is good and evil by in a universe where there is no Moral Governor ?

If it is a synch for you you won't mind explaining it here again now. I can't see where you dealt with it.

Originally posted by @fmf
I am an atheist with regard to all religions, sonship, not just yours.

Except your religion of an uncreated universe which has always existed yet avoids the laws of decay which physics declares all matter is subject to.

That religion is OK with you.

Have to take it on faith .... Right ?

Originally posted by @sonship
Get your "run away from my argument" hat on because boredom is beginning to set in.

Then stop, sonship. Just stop yourself. If you're bored, then you're bored. Stop posting stuff on my account. I am finding the effect your beliefs have on your intellectual and interpersonal behaviour - and your demeanour - quite interesting.

Originally posted by @sonship
Except your religion of an uncreated universe which has always existed yet avoids the laws of decay which physics declares all matter is subject to.

That religion is OK with you.

Have to take it on faith .... Right ?

I don't have a religion. I am not religious. I don't believe in supernatural causality ~ or at least I won't until I see a credible revelation by a god or gods. I am not superstitious. But I am open-minded. The stuff you say about your religion is nor more credible than the other religions I have encountered.

Originally posted by @sonship
Did you explain what STANDARD you measure what is good and evil by in a universe where there is no Moral Governor ?

Yes. It has been discussed here many times. In-depth. With examples. If you have forgotten, then you have missed your opportunity.

Originally posted by @sonship
Its torture enough just to have to wake up with that kind of head you have.

You'd rather be dead, yes, I know. There's a thread about that ~ if you fancy expanding upon it.

Originally posted by @sonship
Its torture enough just to have to wake up with that kind of head you have.

Did you explain what STANDARD you measure what is good and evil by in a universe where there is no Moral Governor ?

If it is a synch for you you won't mind explaining it here again now. I can't see where you dealt with it.

I understand that my responses to you are contributing to the "fact" that I am going to get tortured for all eternity ~ set alight, and hung out on chains, not permitted to just cease to exist, to "glorify" your god figure, and as a warning to others so that they better believe the stuff you believe ~ according to your theology ~ right?

Originally posted by @sonship
[b]...I am going to another thread which I find a profitable and constructive discussion./b]

With whom?