01 Jul 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerJesus Christ has the words of eternal life.
Since you don’t believe the entire Bible is trustworthy, how do you know which parts you can trust?
Originally posted by @rajk999You realize Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John wrote the gospels? Luke also wrote Acts, John wrote several other books including Revelation, so why would you treat these guys recollection of Jesus words over doctrine given by the Holy Spirit? What the Holy Spirit shares will never contradict anything that the Father or Son say!
Jesus Christ has the words of eternal life.
01 Jul 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayWhat for example
You realize Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John wrote the gospels? Luke also wrote Acts, John wrote several other books including Revelation, so why would you treat these guys recollection of Jesus words over doctrine given by the Holy Spirit? What the Holy Spirit shares will never contradict anything that the Father or Son say!
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02 Jul 18
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Originally posted by @divegeesterMy faith was and still is a growing faith.
I appreciate your honestly.
Presumably therefore, you must accept that it is possible to be a Christian and not accept the whole Bible as trustworthy?
So yes.
That is not an invitation to purposely work at being sectarian.
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Originally posted by @sonshipYou believe it is possible to be a Christian and not yet accept that the bible is fully trustworthy...
My faith was and still is a growing faith.
So yes.
gosh, I am very surprised that you hold to this view, especially in the context that you will never openly discuss if your own favoured doctrines, the trinity and eternal suffering for examples, and whether they are essential for salvation/to be a Christian. Which are essentially just interpretations within the Bible itself.
I suspect there will be several posters here who will want to take this up with you, but I doubt if you will be subjected to the abuse I get for questioning, shall I say, sacred truths.
Good for you for being so open and I’m interested in discussing this further with you.
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02 Jul 18
Originally posted by @velnsAn interesting post, which I note with interest that dj2becker hasn’t responded to.
I don’t carry a strong opinion on this topic but I do remember you describing your all or nothing experiences in a Christian cult and I therefore find myself very surprised to see you propsosing the same cultish philosophy in your approach to the bible.
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02 Jul 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterBeen there. Done that.
You believe it is possible to be a Christian and not yet accept that the bible is fully trustworthy...
gosh, I am very surprised that you hold to this view, especially in the context that you will never openly discuss if your own favoured doctrines, the trinity and eternal suffering for examples, and whether they are essential for salvation/to be a C ...[text shortened]... uths.
Good for you for being so open and I’m interested in discussing this further with you.
Not expecting any different outcomes.
Originally posted by @divegeesterOur accepting everything everyone else believes isn't important, it is being accepted by
Sorry I don’t understand this part of your post.
Are you also suggesting that it is possible to be a Christian and not accept the whole Bible as trustworthy? I think you are, please confirm.
Jesus Christ, and I mean that happening NOW in this life, being given God's Spirit, and
with that, that we love one another. When we are with God and God's love is our
purpose in what we do the small stuff should remain small stuff. The fruit of the Spirit will
be evident if we are walking loving each other as we are called too, we will be fulfilling
all that the Lord requires, you always treat those you actually love with the kindness they
need. The Lord Himself needs to be in our lives to make this happen, it isn't something
we can earn or through human effort become.
If we are not, it will be evident too, by the fruit of our lives will have all the ear marks of
living in the flesh as hate and not doing the good we should.
The Bible is trustworthy, I think until you realize that much of it will seem to be odds with
other parts of it. The obvious answer to you question however will be it will depend on
what parts are accepted and what are rejected. I have no doubt it will NOT be a big deal
on how old the earth is, but if you justify hating those around you, yea, you and God are
having issues. Finding God in Jesus Christ is of utmost importance, not just believing in
Him, but finding Him, even the devil believes in Jesus it isn't going to do Him any good at
all. He calls us to take His yoke upon us and learn of Him, this isn't done from a distance
but this life, it is also the very best part of life, since He can take us through all the trials
of this life, both the good and bad.