02 Jul 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayThanks.
Our accepting everything everyone else believes isn't important, it is being accepted by
Jesus Christ, and I mean that happening NOW in this life, being given God's Spirit, and
with that, that we love one another. When we are with God and God's love is our
purpose in what we do the small stuff should remain small stuff. The fruit of the Spirit will
be ...[text shortened]... part of life, since He can take us through all the trials
of this life, both the good and bad.
Are you also suggesting that it is possible to be a Christian and not accept the whole Bible as trustworthy? I think you are, please confirm.
Originally posted by @divegeesterMy answer was in my post.
Thanks.
Are you also suggesting that it is possible to be a Christian and not accept the whole Bible as trustworthy? I think you are, please confirm.
Christians...
Is it possible to be a Christian, to be saved, but to also accept that the bible is not entirely trustworthy?
Sonship - yes
KellyJay - yes (I think)
Rajk999 - yes
divegeester - yes
dj2becker - no
Anyone else?
However I feel that those who said yes are somewhat backing away from their affirmation; I could be misinterpreting posts, apologies if am.
Let’s try to be unequivocal if we can please.
Thanks
Originally posted by @divegeesterBe clear yourself here too, are you suggesting the Bible isn't trustworthy?
Christians...
Is it possible to be a Christian, to be saved, but to also accept that the bible is not entirely trustworthy?
Sonship - yes
KellyJay - yes (I think)
Rajk999 - yes
divegeester - yes
dj2becker - no
Anyone else?
However I feel that those who said yes are somewhat backing away from their affirmation; I could be misinterpreting posts, apologies if am.
Let’s try to be unequivocal if we can please.
Thanks
Are you asking, can we be unsure about parts of it as true to the best of our understanding?
There is a difference, if you attempting to suggest we agree it isn't trustworthy, put me down
as a no, it is. If you are asking do we have to understand and accept all parts we may have
an issue with, it depends on the parts. Which would mean some things are not as
important and others and you could put me down as a yes.
Originally posted by @divegeesterI think you are jumping to a conclusion.
Christians...
Is it possible to be a Christian, to be saved, but to also accept that the bible is not entirely trustworthy?
Sonship - yes
KellyJay - yes (I think)
Rajk999 - yes
divegeester - yes
dj2becker - no
Anyone else?
However I feel that those who said yes are somewhat backing away from their affirmation; I could be misinterpreting posts, apologies if am.
Let’s try to be unequivocal if we can please.
Thanks
The OP as I read it asked a question ... WHY?
I didn't see the issue being possible or not possible ... but why not trust all of the Scriptures ? Which is a perfectly valid question.
The emphasis is mine below on the OP.
If you don't believe the entire Bible is divinely inspired and is completely trustworthy in totality, ... WHY ... do you believe any of it at all?
It makes absolutely no sense to pick only the parts you like and brush the parts you don't like under the carpet and pretend that they don't exist. That is the most intellectually dishonest behavior I have ever seen. It's either all or nothing.
I don't see dj2becker's point to be other than asking the doubter to explain his rationale for his lingering mistrust in God's word.
Originally posted by @velnsWhich 'all or nothing experiences' are you specifically talking about? The cult I was a part of used to enforce rules that weren't in the Bible.
I don’t carry a strong opinion on this topic but I do remember you describing your all or nothing experiences in a Christian cult and I therefore find myself very surprised to see you propsosing the same cultish philosophy in your approach to the bible.
Originally posted by @rajk999Sure and if you believe the gospel writers were divinely inspired to accurately convey those words why wouldn't the rest of the Bible also be divinely inspired? Do you believe the gospel writers were only divinely inspired while they were writing down the words of Jesus and not the rest of the time?
Jesus Christ has the words of eternal life.
Originally posted by @divegeesterHow on earth did you reach that conclusion based on what I wrote? 🙄
Christians...
Is it possible to be a Christian, to be saved, but to also accept that the bible is not entirely trustworthy?
Sonship - yes
KellyJay - yes (I think)
Rajk999 - yes
divegeester - yes
dj2becker - no
Anyone else?
However I feel that those who said yes are somewhat backing away from their affirmation; I could be misinterpreting posts, apologies if am.
Let’s try to be unequivocal if we can please.
Thanks
Originally posted by @divegeesterYou seem to be totally missing the point as usual. The reason for the OP was to establish how those (who don't trust all of the Bible) know which parts to trust and which parts to distrust.
Christians...
Is it possible to be a Christian, to be saved, but to also accept that the bible is not entirely trustworthy?
Sonship - yes
KellyJay - yes (I think)
Rajk999 - yes
divegeester - yes
dj2becker - no
Anyone else?
However I feel that those who said yes are somewhat backing away from their affirmation; I could be misinterpreting posts, apologies if am.
Let’s try to be unequivocal if we can please.
Thanks
02 Jul 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou asked a question. I answered
Sure and if you believe the gospel writers were divinely inspired to accurately convey those words why wouldn't the rest of the Bible also be divinely inspired? Do you believe the gospel writers were only divinely inspired while they were writing down the words of Jesus and not the rest of the time?
I asked a question. You ignored it
You are asking another question.
What you you think I should do?
02 Jul 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThis was answered already. Jesus said to trust him. Trust him means trusting in his words in particularly those words what lead to eternal life. Jesus words are spirit and life. They give eternal life.
You seem to be totally missing the point as usual. The reason for the OP was to establish how those (who don't trust all of the Bible) know which parts to trust and which parts to distrust.
02 Jul 18
Originally posted by @rajk999So do you believe only the words of Jesus happen to be divinely inspired and the rest of the Bible isn't or am I missing something?
This was answered already. Jesus said to trust him. Trust him means trusting in his words in particularly those words what lead to eternal life. Jesus words are spirit and life. They give eternal life.
02 Jul 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYes you are missing some brains.
So do you believe only the words of Jesus happen to be divinely inspired and the rest of the Bible isn't or am I missing something?
All divinely inspired words do not lead to eternal life
Jesus has the words of eternal life.