Spirituality
16 Jun 18
20 Jun 18
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemYou don't see the difficulty here because you're not religious.
Hmm. While on the one hand I think it's a bit silly for athletes to point to the sky after every touchdown they score, I can't help but think your statement is a tad absolutist. Righteous people are NEVER supposed to pray for a sports team? Why not?
God can't be bothered which team wins, EVER.
Why in the hell would a person pray for some team to win, when there are people going hungry, people getting killed, people being enslaved EVERY DAY?
Which team wins is pretty damned far down God's priority list, and for a person to think it is so important that it should get bumped to the top is selfishness taken to a new extreme.
No, no righteous man would pray for that.
Originally posted by @suzianneWho said anything about changing God's priority list?
You don't see the difficulty here because you're not religious.
God can't be bothered which team wins, EVER.
Why in the hell would a person pray for some team to win, when there are people going hungry, people getting killed, people being enslaved EVERY DAY?
Which team wins is pretty damned far down God's priority list, and for a person to think i ...[text shortened]... d to the top is selfishness taken to a new extreme.
No, no righteous man would pray for that.
So you're only allowed to pray about hunger, killing, and slavery...I guess people in the first world don't get to pray for much in their local lives, then?
Originally posted by @wolfgang59Are you talking about children suffering down through the millennia, or just the children that have caught your political eye this last week?
If god can't be bothered saving children from suffering then I don't see how a football match will get his attention.
Besides .. doesn't he already know the results?
Originally posted by @divegeesterThe whole lot.
Are you talking about children suffering down through the millennia, or just the children that have caught your political eye this last week?
The Holocaust kids, the starving, the diseased, my daughter.
23 Jun 18
Originally posted by @suzianneThen in one fell swoop you judge all people who pray for their sports team to win, as being unrighteousness...is that what you are saying?
Which team wins is pretty damned far down God's priority list, and for a person to think it is so important that it should get bumped to the top is selfishness taken to a new extreme.
No, no righteous man would pray for that.
23 Jun 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterunrighteous .. I think that is what she is saying.
Then in one fell swoop you judge all people who pray for their sports team to win, as being unrighteousness[sic]...is that what you are saying?
23 Jun 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterNope, you have the cart before the horse.
Then in one fell swoop you judge all people who pray for their sports team to win, as being unrighteousness...is that what you are saying?
Not, if you pray for a sports team, then you're unrighteous.
What I am saying is that those who DO pray for a sports team do not understand who they pray to. A righteous man would understand that he's wasting his time praying for something so insignificant. Praying for harmony among spectators, or that everyone involved in the game do their best is one thing. But to pray that one team win is simply not God's will, and it simply cheapens the act of prayer. What I SAID was that a righteous man would never pray that one team win over another team. I did not say that if one does pray for that that they are automatically "unrighteous". There are vanishingly few biblically righteous people on the earth anymore. But that also doesn't make them wicked, sinful or evil, like you apparently would like to suggest I'm saying.
Don't worry about it. I wasn't singling you out.
23 Jun 18
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Originally posted by @wolfgang59As you have brought her into this, how is your daughter suffering and is it relevant?
The whole lot.
The Holocaust kids, the starving, the diseased, my daughter.
Originally posted by @suzianneErr no, there is no cart nor a horse...how you have got carts and horses into this is funny. No, actually what you have posted is a load of obfuscation and waffle.
Nope, you have the cart before the horse.
Not, if you pray for a sports team, then you're unrighteous.
What I am saying is that those who DO pray for a sports team do not understand who they pray to. A righteous man would understand that he's wasting his time praying for something so insignificant. Praying for harmony among spectators, or that ever ...[text shortened]... pparently would like to suggest I'm saying.
Don't worry about it. I wasn't singling you out.
Here is what you said:
“No, no righteous man would pray for that” (his team to win).
So you are in fact saying that any person who prays for their team to win is unrighteous and in one fell swoop you condem billions under your partisan hammer.
Nice one...
PS ever prayed for your team to win? 😉
23 Jun 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterI think what she's saying is that if a man is righteous, he would pray for more important things and not be bothered praying about a sports event.
Err no, there is no cart nor a horse...how you have got carts and horses into this is funny. No, actually what you have posted is a load of obfuscation and waffle.
Here is what you said:
[b]“No, no righteous man would pray for that” (his team to win).
So you are in fact saying that any person who prays for their team to win is unrighteous a ...[text shortened]... billions under your partisan hammer.
Nice one...
PS ever prayed for your team to win? 😉[/b]
Maybe you're confused with the way she phrased it.
23 Jun 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterShe died.
As you have brought her into this, how is your daughter suffering and is it relevant?
No more or less relevant than any child that has suffered.
23 Jun 18
Originally posted by @wolfgang59My condolences wolfgang59.
She died.
No more or less relevant than any child that has suffered.