Worlds problems....

Originally posted by FMF
You contradicted him, then said you hadn't, you claimed he hadn't said X when he had, then you claimed he had said X, then passed off the difference of opinion as "no difference of opinion". What is the personal issue or discomfort that you are wrestling with so publicly here?

no i did not contradict him at all, i tried to explain what my perception of what he meant
was, seeing that I am not telepathic I think the outcome is rather good, considering
that both stances have been proven biblically, without any conflict or contradiction, hard
for you to take i know, but there you are.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Bullied??? LOL, have you been dipping into the well of tabloid journalism today? All i have done is pasted your own quotes back at you and asked you to comment.

Have you changed your mind or have you not?

you and FMF have ganged up on me, practically beat me up and tried to extract some
kind of confession of a mercurial disposition, but i have resisted, produced the readies
and appear vindicated!

you'll never make a canoe out of me! stabs himself all over with a fork. 🙂

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you may make reference to the Biblical passages that I have provided, which
demonstrate that God has withheld information not only from the angels, but Jesus
Christ himself.

You say "God has withheld information not only from the angels, but Jesus Christ himself", and yet galveston75 regularly refers to himself as "chosen" to have information from God that God "withholds" from others, including other Christians. Do you endorse galveston75's assertion that he has been "chosen" and "permitted" to understand by God?

Originally posted by FMF
You say "God has withheld information not only from the angels, but Jesus Christ himself", and yet galveston75 regularly refers to himself as "chosen" to have information from God that God "withholds" from others, including other Christians. Do you endorse galveston75's assertion that he has been "chosen" and "permitted" to understand by God?

Hard to say, not being telepathic. That God has withheld some information
is not synonymous with the idea that God has withheld all information, is it, now be
reasonable FMF. If the Gman claims that he has been 'chosen', then who am I to
dispute it? If he claims that he is party to information that others are not, then how
shall I state that he is not, hmmm? what proof shall I offer dear FMF? now lets be
reasonable, shall we?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
If the Gman claims that he has been 'chosen', then who am I to dispute it? ?

OK. So you don't want to dispute it. Do you claim to be 'chosen' too?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you and FMF have ganged up on me, practically beat me up and tried to extract some
kind of confession of a mercurial disposition, but i have resisted, produced the readies
and appear vindicated!

you'll never make a canoe out of me! stabs himself all over with a fork. 🙂

Have you changed your mind?

Originally posted by FMF
OK. So you don't want to dispute it. Do you claim to be 'chosen' too?

what do you mean chosen? The apostle Peter states that all christians are a chosen
race.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Have you changed your mind?

no i dont think so. I have merely provided substantiating Biblical evidence for both
claims, covering all scenarios.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no i dont think so. I have merely provided substantiating Biblical evidence for both
claims, covering all scenarios.

You don't think you've changed your mind? Either you have or you haven't, there's no middle ground.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
You don't think you've changed your mind? Either you have or you haven't, there's no middle ground.

well you know PK, 'how words somehow have two meanings'.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no i dont think so. I have merely provided substantiating Biblical evidence for both
claims, covering all scenarios.

Last night you claimed this -

the insistence that God is withholding information is yours, not mine.

Now you're claiming that God does withhold evidence/information. How is that not a change of mind?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Last night you claimed this -

the insistence that God is withholding information is yours, not mine.

Now you're claiming that God does withhold evidence/information. How is that not a change of mind?

yes but there are two minds here, yours which fomented your assertion that God
withholds information and mine which has demonstrated how this is a Biblical concept. I
have changed your mind, have I PK, no, i have merely provided a reference which
substantiates the claim.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes but there are two minds here, yours which fomented your assertion that God
withholds information and mine which has demonstrated how this is a Biblical concept. I
have changed your mind, have I PK, no, i have merely provided a reference which
substantiates the claim.

You've substantiated a claim which last night you denied happened.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
You've substantiated a claim which last night you denied happened.

no i have substantiated a claim I made today. My opinion was based upon a mere
perception of what someone else had intended to state and my understanding of it.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no i have substantiated a claim I made today. My opinion was based upon a mere
perception of what someone else had intended to state and my understanding of it.

Yesterday you wrote this -

No i dont think that's the implication at all, its not that God is withholding evidence as in hiding something from you, but that the evidence that is presented is not valid in your eyes, or is flawed, or whatever.

and then today -

does God withhold certain information from persons, yes indeed.

If that's not a u-turn, i don't know what is.