Originally posted by @suzianneI understand that when two world leaders who were threatening war start threatening peace, that this upsets your apocalyptic perspective.
Was Neville Chamberlain's mollification of Hitler's dream of world domination 'something to be a little optimistic about'?
Originally posted by @divegeesterI'm sure Neville Chamberlain thought this too.
I understand that when two world leaders who were threatening war start threatening peace, that this upsets your apocalyptic perspective.
Originally posted by @suzianneNeville Chaimberlain thought that when two world leaders who were threatening war, started threatening peace, that this upsets paranoid partisan Christians who hold apocalyptic perspectives?
I'm sure Neville Chamberlain thought this too.
Originally posted by @romans1009You tell me? Have you looked into it? Are prophecies even a determining factor for religious truth?
Fulfilled prophecies. Eyewitness testimony.
Behavior of the disciples.
How many fulfilled prophecies are in the Koran and Vedas?
Originally posted by @fmfChristians see the world through the lens of scripture. The scriptures have never failed to predict the future for both nations and individuals alike that fail to heed the warnings for failure to obey God's Word.
I disagree. Christians peering at the world through their gloomy, impotent prisms are ten a penny.
Your hope in the endeavors of man to govern himself are proven to be impotent by the record of human history alone, much less the accuracy of biblical prophecy.
False prophets are a dime a dozen.
29 Apr 18
Originally posted by @secondsonThanks for the Jeremiah quote.
Christians see the world through the lens of scripture. The scriptures have never failed to predict the future for both nations and individuals alike that fail to heed the warnings for failure to obey God's Word.
Your hope in the endeavors of man to govern himself are proven to be impotent by the record of human history alone, much less the accuracy of biblical prophecy.
False prophets are a dime a dozen.
Originally posted by @fmfTake a broader look. We're sitting on the ash heap of man's efforts to create economic and social development and better governance since time began.
Jeremiah this, Jeremiah that. You are offering me nothing about economic and social development and the trends towards better governance in many parts of the world.
But you can't see it because you're looking at the world through the lens of humanism and the illusion of evolution.
Originally posted by @fmfNot yours.
[b]I'm in better company than the so-called "walk-the-walk Indonesian Christians" you're meeting with.
Whose "company" do you claim to be in when it comes to taking a look at the human condition in countries like Indonesia at this stage of their development?[/b]
29 Apr 18
Originally posted by @secondsonTake a broader look.
Take a broader look. We're sitting on the ash heap of man's efforts to create economic and social development and better governance since time began.
But you can't see it because you're looking at the world through the lens of humanism and the illusion of evolution.
I believe I am taking a broader look ~ while you are - rather comically, to my way of thinking - wittering on about ancient Hebrew mythology.
29 Apr 18
Originally posted by @secondsonWhose "company" do you claim is "better" than the "walk-the-walk Indonesian Christians" I mentioned when it comes to understanding this (their) country and how it has been changing for the better?
Not yours.
Originally posted by @fmfFail to learn the lesson of history and you're doomed to repeat it.
Thanks for the Jeremiah quote.
Man doesn't have the power to fix himself. Man is the problem. All you're doing is echoing the same old self righteous and man made solutions to a chronic condition that has plagued mankind since the beginning.
Originally posted by @fmfThe Hebrew mythological God's company.
Whose "company" do you claim is "better" than the "walk-the-walk Indonesian Christians" I mentioned when it comes to understanding this (their) country and how it has been changing for the better?
29 Apr 18
Originally posted by @secondsonWhat do you offer instead? Gloom. Fatalism. Impotence. Superstition. Maybe that cocktail has the power to fix the world's problems, although I don't see it myself.
Man doesn't have the power to fix himself. Man is the problem. All you're doing is echoing the same old self righteous and man made solutions to a chronic condition that has plagued mankind since the beginning.
29 Apr 18
Originally posted by @secondsonOh well, you tried to come up with something trite, again. Didn't seem to work though.
The Hebrew mythological God's company.
29 Apr 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeThey are a huge factor. I've heard that as much as 30% of biblical prophecy has been fulfilled.
Are prophecies even a determining factor for religious truth?
Prophecy is a major component of the Bible that sets it aside from all other religions and their so-called scriptures.