Go back
www.answering-islam.org

www.answering-islam.org

Spirituality

R
Standard memberRemoved

Joined
31 Jan 18
Moves
3456
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @fmf
There would be no way of answering it without revealing personal information.
You think you’d reveal personal information by answering “Yes” or “No” to the question of whether you ask endless questions of your friends and refuse to answer their questions?

Now you’re just being ridiculous.

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @romans1009
I thought you previously said atheists could only discuss things from an atheist’s perspective. Or did you just use that as a dodge?
Are you talking about Ghost of a Duke perhaps? I have spent more of my life with Christian's perspectives than I have with atheist's perspectives. and so it sounds like you are getting me mixed up with Ghost of a Duke - who has always been an atheist, as far as I know. You asked me for some detail about my former Christian beliefs and I told you what they were.

SecondSon
Sinner

Saved by grace

Joined
18 Dec 16
Moves
557
Clock
30 Apr 18
1 edit

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
🙂 'As the Earth thus becomes crowded with a corrupt population, whoever among any of the social classes shows himself to be the strongest will gain political power.' (Srimad Bhagavatam 12.2.7)
That is interesting, but I hardly see it as prophetic. It seems more of a statement of the obvious. A generalization.

According to Genesis it got crowded rather quickly. Seems Cain thought it was too crowded with Abel around.

Prophecy, strictly speaking, foretells of specific events, people, places, times and even the names of individuals that will come to be in the future.

The prophecies contained in the Bible are always 100% accurate. There are many hundreds of them, and to date it has been estimated that nearly 30% of them have been fulfilled to the last detail.

Not one jot or tittle will pass away until all have been fulfilled. A sure test of its reliability. So far none have failed. Otherwise the Bible is not the Word of God.

There's a post on page 25 in reply to a post you made on page 20, in case you missed it with all these guys crowding up the pages of this thread with post after post and not saying much of anything. It was torture reading through. :'(

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @romans1009
You think you’d reveal personal information by answering “Yes” or “No” to the question of whether you ask endless questions of your friends and refuse to answer their questions?

Now you’re just being ridiculous.
My relationship with my family and friends is not something I am going to discuss with you any more than to say what I have said already.

R
Standard memberRemoved

Joined
31 Jan 18
Moves
3456
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @fmf
Are you talking about Ghost of a Duke perhaps? I have spent more of my life with Christian's perspectives than I have with atheist's perspectives. and so it sounds like you are getting me mixed up with Ghost of a Duke - who has always been an atheist, as far as I know. You asked me for some detail about my former Christian beliefs and I told you what they were.
You concurred with his statement but you two often seem to simply echo one another.

R
Standard memberRemoved

Joined
31 Jan 18
Moves
3456
Clock
30 Apr 18
1 edit

Originally posted by @fmf
My relationship with my family and friends is not something I am going to discuss with you any more than to say what I have said already.
I don’t want you to. I just find your statement to be ludicrous that you would be revealing personal information by answering “Yes” or “No” to the question of whether you ask endless questions of your friends and refuse to answer their questions.

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @romans1009
You concurred with his statement but you two often seem to simply echo one another.
You are mistaken. Me being an ex-Christian and him being a never-anything-other-than-an-atheist has resulted in us being different in many key ways when it comes to what you are putting to me right now about something Ghost of a Duke said and that I did not.

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @romans1009
I don’t want you to. I just find your statement to be ludicrous that you would be revealing personal information by answering “Yes” or “No” to the question of whether you ask endless questions of your friends and refuse to answer their questions.
I am not interested in any further discussion with you about my family and friends.

R
Standard memberRemoved

Joined
31 Jan 18
Moves
3456
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @fmf
You are mistaken. Me being an ex-Christian and him being a never-anything-other-than-an-atheist has resulted in us being different in many key ways when it comes to what you are putting to me right now about something Ghost of a Duke said and that I did not.
You concurred with his statement.

R
Standard memberRemoved

Joined
31 Jan 18
Moves
3456
Clock
30 Apr 18
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by @fmf
I am not interested in any further discussion with you about my family and friends.
I’m very happy to hear that.

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @romans1009
You concurred with his statement.
As it applied to him, yes, of course, I did. I accepted his perspective. But he made that statement about himself. I did not make it about me.

dj2becker

Joined
01 Oct 04
Moves
12095
Clock
30 Apr 18
1 edit

Originally posted by @fmf
As it applied to him, yes, of course, I did. I accepted his perspective. But he made that statement about himself. I did not make it about me.
At the point in time when you concurred with him you were an atheist which means it pertained to your perspective as well, or are you going to try to spin it that you are an atheist that doesn't have an atheist perspective?

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @dj2becker
At the point in time when you concurred with him you were an atheist which means it pertained to your perspective as well, or are you going to try to spin it that you are an atheist that doesn't have an atheist perspective?
Romans1009 asked me about my perspectives in the past - that is to say, when I was a Christian - so I told him. I think what Ghost of a Duke said about himself was true. But what Ghost of a Duke said about himself on that occasion has no bearing on me or what I say when I am answering Romans1009's question about what my perspectives were when I was a Christian in the past.

R
Standard memberRemoved

Joined
31 Jan 18
Moves
3456
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @fmf
Romans1009 asked me about my perspectives in the past - that is to say, when I was a Christian - so I told him. I think what Ghost of a Duke said about himself was true. But what Ghost of a Duke said about himself on that occasion has no bearing on me or what I say when I am answering Romans1009's question about what my perspectives were when I was a Christian in the past.
We weren’t talking about the past just now. You were talking briefly - and wanted to continue talking - about Jesus Christ’s Resurrection. Just now. As an atheist.

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
Clock
30 Apr 18

Originally posted by @dj2becker
At the point in time when you concurred with him you were an atheist which means it pertained to your perspective as well, or are you going to try to spin it that you are an atheist that doesn't have an atheist perspective?
Take this for example. Because I am an atheist, I don't think "sin" actually exists other than in the minds of people who happen to believe there is a supernatural lawgiver whose laws can be transgressed. When I was a Christian, I used to think that "sin" was real and that there were real and that there were supernatural laws that could be transgressed. Ghost of a Duke has not had BOTH of these perspectives in his life. He has only had the atheist one.

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.