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Originally posted by @romans1009

His knowledge of Christian doctrine?! Ghost thinks God is an “outside agent” in a Christian’s life, thinks the animal in Genesis 3 was a snake and doesn’t understand its ability to talk was through demonic possession, can’t recall one of the most noteworthy prophecies in the Old Testament, and apparently thinks Christians and Muslims worship the same God but just call Him different names.[/b]
All of these points are a result of your inability to understand things that are explained to you. Trapped within your own limited mind-set you are simply unable to comprehend and as a consequence disintegrate into daft interpretation.

'Talking snake' is so obviously a derisory comment (coming from an atheist) that it really shouldn't require a neon sign for you to realise that. - But even then, although the Bible uses serpent elsewhere to refer to something that is not a snake, a snake 'is' still a serpent. I repeat, a snake 'is' a serpent. - 'Snake' or 'serpent' is a pointless differentiation. Why? Because the story is a myth, a nonsense.

Now, please explain why you are posting in a thread about Islam when you say you have no interest in talking about Islam?

Take your time...

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Originally posted by @fmf
I believe that Ghost of a Duke was right to defend his characterization of certain Christain beliefs in the way he did on account of the fact that he posts here as an atheist.

As for me declaring in some sort of generic way about what would or wouldn't be "impossible" for "someone" to say using religious perspectives while factoring in whatever their experi ...[text shortened]... gh he is an atheist, is capable of something close to empathy in this regard. He might disagree.
Yes, it would be very easy to put on such a 'Christian mask.'

Romans does so on a daily basis.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Wait,....you're a Christian?!

No evidence of that in the way you conduct yourself in these forums. You must be lying.
1. Are you implying by any chance that Christians are subject to higher moral standards than regular folk?

2. Are you implying this from an atheist or Christian perspective?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Are you implying by any chance that Christians are subject to higher moral standards than regular folk?
According to Christians.

Do you disagree?

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
According to Christians.

Do you disagree?
So when it suits you, you are in fact able to adopt a Christian perspective?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
So when it suits you, you are in fact able to adopt a Christian perspective?
No. I am telling you clearly that 'Christians' expect a higher moral standard for themselves and other Christians due to being 'born again,' with 'good works' being an unavoidable consequence of being saved. (This is what Christians themselves report. This is not my perspective).

Again, do you disagree?

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
No. I am telling you clearly that 'Christians' expect a higher moral standard for themselves and other Christians due to being 'born again,' with 'good works' being an unavoidable consequence of being saved. (This is what Christians themselves report. This is not my perspective).

Again, do you disagree?
So when you said, "Wait,....you're a Christian?!

No evidence of that in the way you conduct yourself in these forums. You must be lying."

You were not sharing your own thoughts/perspective but someone else's??

PS: No I obviously would agree that a Christian should have higher moral standards than an atheist.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker

PS: No I obviously would agree that a Christian should have higher moral standards than an atheist.
So why the pretense? Do I need to be a Christian myself to accept that is what 'you' believe?

Romans clearly struggles with this being a spirituality forum, rather than a Christianity forum. Do you share the same struggle, and if so, what drew you to a thread about Islam?

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
So why the pretense? Do I need to be a Christian myself to accept that is what 'you' believe?

Romans clearly struggles with this being a spirituality forum, rather than a Christianity forum. Do you share the same struggle, and if so, what drew you to a thread about Islam?
Earlier on you said you could only see things from an atheist perspective did you not? Was that a lie?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Earlier on you said you could only see things from an atheist perspective did you not? Was that a lie?
No. I write from an atheists perspective. (Because I'm an atheist). Why do you think this means I can't understand what a Christian says and believes?


Again, what drew you to a thread about Islam?

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
No. I write from an atheists perspective. (Because I'm an atheist). Why do you think this means I can't understand what a Christian says and believes?


Again, what drew you to a thread about Islam?
No. I write from an atheists perspective. (Because I'm an atheist). Why do you think this means I can't understand what a Christian says and believes?

Obviously I think you can. Earlier on in the thread you supposedly couldn't, but only because it didn't suit you then. Now when it suits you, you suddenly can.

Again, what drew you to a thread about Islam?

Interest in discussing different views of course.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
With that in mind sir, how do you understand Matthew 24:34?

“Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.” (By all means view it in context).
genea - translated generation. Most likely meaning the successive members of a genealogy. Obviously it wasn't that generation Jesus was speaking to.

Context is essential.
Matthew 24:2
And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Some of Jesus' prophecy was fulfilled within 40 years when Titus Vespasian leveled Jerusalem.

Verse 3
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

The rest of the chapter deals with events immediately preceding Jesus' actual physical return to the earth. Described in greater detail in Revelation.

Much of what Jesus foretold concerning the end of the age was prophesied of by the prophets and throughout the Old Testament. Hundreds of detailed descriptions of events, times, places and people, much of which has come to pass, and supported by secular historical records unearthed in the places spoken of in biblical prophecy.

That's how I understand Matthew 24.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
[b]No. I write from an atheists perspective. (Because I'm an atheist). Why do you think this means I can't understand what a Christian says and believes?

Obviously I think you can. Earlier on in the thread you supposedly couldn't, but only because it didn't suit you then. Now when it suits you, you suddenly can.

Again, what drew you to a thread about Islam?

Interest in discussing different views of course.[/b]
Do you ever simply respond, "Oh, I understand what you mean?'


Different views or different religions?

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Originally posted by @secondson
genea - translated generation. Most likely meaning the successive members of a genealogy. Obviously it wasn't that generation Jesus was speaking to.

Context is essential.
Matthew 24:2
And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Som ...[text shortened]... s unearthed in the places spoken of in biblical prophecy.

That's how I understand Matthew 24.
"Much of what Jesus foretold concerning the end of the age was prophesied of by the prophets and throughout the Old Testament..."



But doesn't Daniel (12) prophesize that the Day of Judgement would occur 3 and a half years after Antiochus' persecution of the Jews in the 2nd Century BC?

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Yes, it would be very easy to put on such a 'Christian mask.'

Romans does so on a daily basis.
That was the first good zinger you’ve had in a while. Congrats! You’re trolling like your old self again - maybe even better.

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