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Originally posted by @romans1009
We weren’t talking about the past just now. You were talking briefly - and wanted to continue talking - about Jesus Christ’s Resurrection. Just now. As an atheist.

I was talking about what my Christian beliefs were in the past. Sorry if there is some confusion about that in your mind.

Originally posted by @fmf
Take this for example. Because I am an atheist, I don't think "sin" actually exists other than in the minds of people who happen to believe there is a supernatural lawgiver whose laws can be transgressed. When I was a Christian, I used to think that "sin" was real and that there were real and that there were supernatural laws that could be transgressed. Ghost of a Duke has not had BOTH of these perspectives in his life. He has only had the atheist one.

So you are saying that you agree that it is impossible for someone who is an atheist to see things from a Christian perspective if they have never been a Christian? Is that correct?

Originally posted by @fmf
I was talking about what my Christian beliefs were in the past. Sorry if there is some confusion about that in your mind.

There’s no confusion in my mind at all. I’m well aware of the literary gymnastics you have to go through to disguise your occasional illogical thinking and flat-out lies. Your ability to twist your words into pretzels and elaborate animal balloons is quite impressive.

Originally posted by @fmf
Take this for example. Because I am an atheist, I don't think "sin" actually exists other than in the minds of people who happen to believe there is a supernatural lawgiver whose laws can be transgressed. When I was a Christian, I used to think that "sin" was real and that there were real and that there were supernatural laws that could be transgressed. Ghost of a Duke has not had BOTH of these perspectives in his life. He has only had the atheist one.

Do you think the current perspective of somebody who used to believe in Santa Claus but no longer does is any different from the perspective of someone who never believed in Santa Claus?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
So you are saying that you agree that it is impossible for someone who is an atheist to see things from a Christian perspective if they have never been a Christian? Is that correct?

I believe that Ghost of a Duke was right to defend his characterization of certain Christain beliefs in the way he did on account of the fact that he posts here as an atheist.

As for me declaring in some sort of generic way about what would or wouldn't be "impossible" for "someone" to say using religious perspectives while factoring in whatever their experience with religious faith - or what their experience with people with religious faith - has or hasn't been, I can't and won't.

I believe that Ghost of a Duke could pass himself off as a Christian - as a practical joke/thought experiment, say, at a dinner party with people he did not know - by employing his knowledge of Christian doctrine and his familiarity with how Christians talk about their faith.

Indeed I believe that Ghost of a Duke, even though he is an atheist, is capable of something close to empathy in this regard. He might disagree.

Originally posted by @romans1009
There’s no confusion in my mind at all. I’m well aware of the literary gymnastics you have to go through to disguise your occasional illogical thinking and flat-out lies. Your ability to twist your words into pretzels and elaborate animal balloons is quite impressive.

There have been no lies.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Do you think the current perspective of somebody who used to believe in Santa Claus but no longer does is any different from the perspective of someone who never believed in Santa Claus?

Ask me a question that I find more interesting than this one. Have a go,

Originally posted by @romans1009
Your ability to twist your words into pretzels and elaborate animal balloons is quite impressive.

If you were more capable of engaging my words in good faith, then you would not be posting stuff about "knickers", "pretzels" and "animal balloons".

Originally posted by @fmf
I believe that Ghost of a Duke was right to defend his characterization of certain Christain beliefs in the way he did on account of the fact that he posts here as an atheist.

As for me declaring in some sort of generic way about what would or wouldn't be "impossible" for "someone" to say using religious perspectives while factoring in whatever their experi ...[text shortened]... gh he is an atheist, is capable of something close to empathy in this regard. He might disagree.

<<I believe that Ghost of a Duke could pass himself off as a Christian - as a practical joke/thought experiment, say, at a dinner party with people he did not know - by employing his knowledge of Christian doctrine>>

His knowledge of Christian doctrine?! Ghost thinks God is an “outside agent” in a Christian’s life, thinks the animal in Genesis 3 was a snake and doesn’t understand its ability to talk was through demonic possession, can’t recall one of the most noteworthy prophecies in the Old Testament, and apparently thinks Christians and Muslims worship the same God but just call Him different names.

Originally posted by @fmf
If you were more capable of engaging my words in good faith, then you would not be posting stuff about "knickers", "pretzels" and "animal balloons".

I do it because your repetition can be very boring.

Originally posted by @fmf
Ask me a question that I find more interesting than this one. Have a go,

I guess that’s your way of acknowledging you’re busted yet again.

Originally posted by @romans1009
I guess that’s your way of acknowledging you’re busted yet again.

I am not interested in questions about "pink unicorns", "the flying spaghetti monster" or "Santa Claus". Find an ex-Christian who is interested in them if you want to pursue those 'topics'.

Originally posted by @romans1009
His knowledge of Christian doctrine?! Ghost thinks God is an “outside agent” in a Christian’s life, thinks the animal in Genesis 3 was a snake and doesn’t understand its ability to talk was through demonic possession, can’t recall one of the most noteworthy prophecies in the Old Testament, and apparently thinks Christians and Muslims worship the same God but just call Him different names.

Yes - his knowledge of Christian doctrine. That's what I meant.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Now you’re trying to pit two Christians against each other. You really are shameless.

Wait,....you're a Christian?!

No evidence of that in the way you conduct yourself in these forums. You must be lying.

Originally posted by @secondson
That is interesting, but I hardly see it as prophetic. It seems more of a statement of the obvious. A generalization.

According to Genesis it got crowded rather quickly. Seems Cain thought it was too crowded with Abel around.

Prophecy, strictly speaking, foretells of specific events, people, places, times and even the names of individuals that will ...[text shortened]... h post after post and not saying much of anything. It was torture reading through. :'( [/hidden]

With that in mind sir, how do you understand Matthew 24:34?

“Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.” (By all means view it in context).