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Originally posted by @romans1009Work.
Where’d Heartpence and tiger go?
It's the thing that adults do to pay the bills.
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerJust that. I haven't 'supposedly' examined. I 'have' examined.
On what basis do you reject the evidence (that you have supposedly examined) for the resurrection?
Why haven't you extended the same courtesy to other religions?
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Originally posted by @romans1009This is the root of your spiritual malignancy. You dismiss the idea that salvation can be achieved by 'works alone' and have stated that good works are instead a consequence of being saved (born again). In other words, by letting God in to your life you have been internally transformed by his spirit and will, as a consequence, conduct yourself with a divine like morality.
I think I’ll stick to ridicule.
Where is the evidence of this internal transformation in the way you post in these forums? The other day you posted that it was your intention to be offensive, and now that you are perfectly content to ridicule others. Where is God in that? - When you mock and belittle such conditions as OCD and Alcoholism, where is God in that? Are you not an ambassador, a messenger, an example of your faith and what it means to have God in your life? Why are your words hollow if you have truly been born again?
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYou says that you value honesty. If you have indeed examined the evidence, can you honestly tell me why you reject it?
Just that. I haven't 'supposedly' examined. I 'have' examined.
Why haven't you extended the same courtesy to other religions?
What gives you the impression that I haven't studied other religions?
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI thought you said Christians don't have the monopoly when it comes to morality? Why then are you implying that as a Christian he should be judged by a higher standard than other people?
This is the root of your spiritual malignancy. You dismiss the idea that salvation can be achieved by 'works alone' and have stated that good works are instead a consequence of being saved (born again). In other words, by letting God in to your life you have been internally transformed by his spirit and will, as a consequence, conduct yourself with ...[text shortened]... it means to have God in your life? Why are your words hollow if you have truly been born again?
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerAs always, you miss the point. Romans himself has said a Christian is internally transformed by the indwelling spirit of God and that good works are an unavoidable consequence of this. Put simply, 'born again = do good."
I thought you said Christians don't have the monopoly when it comes to morality? Why then are you implying that as a Christian he should be judged by a higher standard than other people?
So why isn't he doing good? Why isn't he demonstrating this internal transformation in the way he posts here?! - Indeed, when questioned, Romans has explained that if a Christian 'doesn't do good works', then he hasn't truly received the law of God or been saved. (Again, good works are a direct consequence of being born again).
Do you agree that a professed Christian, not behaving like a Christian, isn't a Christian? That someone who openly admits his intention is to offend and ridicule is as far removed from a Christian as one can get?
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerYour words.
What gives you the impression that I haven't studied other religions?
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeSo you think the words written on a internet forum can be used to decide whether or not someone is doing good works in real life?
As always, you miss the point. Romans himself has said a Christian is internally transformed by the indwelling spirit of God and that good works are an unavoidable consequence of this. Put simply, 'born again = do good."
So why isn't he doing good? Why isn't he demonstrating this internal transformation in the way he posts here?! - Indeed, when q ...[text shortened]... dmits his intention is to offend and ridicule is as far removed from a Christian as one can get?
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeIf you have indeed examined the evidence for the resurrection, can you honestly tell me why you reject it? And if you feel there is another religion that I am missing with more compelling evidence fee free to share it.
Your words.
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerOkay, I'll spoon feed you.
If you have indeed examined the evidence for the resurrection, can you honestly tell me why you reject it? And if you feel there is another religion that I am missing with more compelling evidence fee free to share it.
1. As an atheist I do not believe in the existence of God. (Period) My reasons for this are plentiful, but let us highlight my incredulity to the idea that an omnipotent and perfectly loving deity can exist when innocent children die of cancer or populations are wiped out by famine, flood or volcanic eruptions.
2. With God 'off the table' I clearly do not view the Bible as being divinely inspired. Indeed, the more one studies the Bible the more one understands how it was compiled by many different authors, decades apart, with varying motivations and social context. It is absolutely riddled with contradictions, monstrosities and anomalies and was fashioned into one book by men, centuries later, with their own biases and motivations.
3. So, bearing in mind that I do not believe God exists nor that the Bible is divinely inspired, what possible credence do you think I, as an atheist, should give to the resurrection? What evidence do you think exists that I should be swayed by, again bearing in mind that I view the bible as a human compilation of stories, none of which have their origins in the divine?
As for other religions having more compelling evidence, that is for you to actively explore yourself. No idea why you are asking an atheist such a thing.
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Originally posted by @dj2becker'A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.'
So you think the words written on a internet forum can be used to decide whether or not someone is doing good works in real life?
Proverbs 15:4
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Originally posted by @rouans1009How the conversation would go if you had one ounce of integrity and common sense:
Then why did you say God was an “outside agent” in a Christian’s life if you’re able to understand things from a Christian perspective?
Ghost. - "Are you God."
Romans. "No."
Ghost. - "So you agree God originates outside of yourself?"
Romans - "Yes."
Ghost. - "So God is an outside agent?"
Romans - "Well, if you put it that way, yes."
Ghost - "Think of God as a piece of bread. It originates as something external and only becomes part of you once you have consumed it."
Romans - "You blow my mind Ghost with your deep understanding of how God (and bread) operates. Sorry for being so inept."
Ghost - "I forgive you. Now run along you little scamp."