‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

Originally posted by @fmf
Here's what Psalms 14:1 actually says: "They [i.e. non-Jews] are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."

What 'case' is it you think you have made about these things with regard to me?

Originally posted by @nicksten
No why would we want to be each other? dj2becker is just as awesome as I am.
We just believe in the very same thing 😉 well - at least I believe so dj2becker?

Originally posted by @nicksten
Well I guess it all depends on how persuasive the person is towards such a message. In the end the effect this has scares them.

Originally posted by @nicksten
So do I FMF, but my response is always "indigenous" according to you, as if your answers are superior to mine.

Originally posted by @nicksten
Obviously from a Christian point of view.

Proverbs 18:2-3
Fools have no interest in understanding; they only want to air their own opinions. Doing wrong leads to disgrace, and scandalous behavior brings contempt.


Proverbs 1:5-7
Let the wise listen to these proverbs and become even wiser. Let those with understanding receive guidance by exploring the meaning in these proverbs and parables, the words of the wise and their riddles. Fear of the LORD is the foundation of true knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.


Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.


Proverbs 10:18-19
He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool. In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.


Proverbs 12:22-23
Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight. A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness.


Proverbs 18:13
Spouting off before listening to the facts is both shameful and foolish.


Proverbs 29:20
There is more hope for a fool than for someone who speaks without thinking.


Isaiah 32:6
For the fool speaks folly, and his heart is busy with iniquity, to practice ungodliness, to utter error concerning the LORD, to leave the craving of the hungry unsatisfied, and to deprive the thirsty of drink.


Proverbs 18:6-7
Fools’ words get them into constant quarrels; they are asking for a beating. The mouths of fools are their ruin; they trap themselves with their lips.


Proverbs 26:11
As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his foolishness.


Proverbs 29:8-9
Mockers can get a whole town agitated, but the wise will calm anger. If a wise person takes a fool to court, there will be ranting and ridicule but no satisfaction.


Proverbs 26:4-5
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes.


Proverbs 26:6-7
Trusting a fool to convey a message is like cutting off one’s feet or drinking poison! A proverb in the mouth of a fool is as useless as a paralyzed leg.


Luke 6:39
Then Jesus gave the following illustration: “Can one blind person lead another? Won’t they both fall into a ditch?


Proverbs 10:23-25
Doing wrong is fun for a fool, but living wisely brings pleasure to the sensible. Doing wrong is fun for a fool, but living wisely brings pleasure to the sensible. When the storms of life come, the wicked are whirled away, but the godly have a lasting foundation.


Proverbs 15:21
Folly is joy to him that is destitute of wisdom: but a man of understanding walketh uprightly.


Proverbs 14:8-10
The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways, but the folly of fools is deception. Fools mock at making amends for sin, but goodwill is found among the upright.


Ecclesiastes 10:1-3
As dead flies cause even a bottle of perfume to stink, so a little foolishness spoils great wisdom and honor. A wise person chooses the right road; a fool takes the wrong one. You can identify fools just by the way they walk down the street!


Psalm 14:1
For the choir director: A psalm of David. Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil; not one of them does good!


Psalm 53:1 1
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, doing abominable iniquity; there is none who does good.


Psalm 74:18
Remember this, O LORD, that the enemy has reviled, And a foolish people has spurned Your name.


Proverbs 28:26
Those who trust in themselves are fools, but those who walk in wisdom are kept safe.


Proverbs 29:11
Fools vent their anger, but the wise quietly hold it back.


Matthew 23:16-19
“Blind guides! What sorrow awaits you! For you say that it means nothing to swear ‘by God’s Temple,’ but that it is binding to swear ‘by the gold in the Temple. Blind fools! Which is more important–the gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? And you say that to swear ‘by the altar’ is not binding, but to swear ‘by the gifts on the altar’ is binding. How blind! For which is more important–the gift on the altar or the altar that makes the gift sacred?

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And lastly, this can be hold against me but I can state that I had no anger or hate (FRUSTRATED : YES!) towards FMF when I posted Psalms 14:1 and now also all of the above, I obviously have pointed out the fact the shoe fits him very well of being a fool.
I will however admit that I have done so many times without knowing any better until learning this today.

Matthew 5:22
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

Originally posted by @nicksten
I can state that I had no anger or hate (FRUSTRATED : YES!) towards FMF when I posted Psalms 14:1 and now also all of the above, I obviously have pointed out the fact the shoe fits him very well of being a fool.

Originally posted by @fmf
I will not be deflected by your spamming of the conversation we are having.

You have dodged my question about Psalms 14:1.

It says: "They [i.e. non-Jews] are[b] corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."

You claim you have made your case about me. What was it: case closed? And "the show fits"?

What 'case' is it you think you think you have made about these things with regard to me?[/b]

Originally posted by @nicksten
you being a fool FMF - thats the case

Originally posted by @nicksten
Proverbs 18:2-3
Fools have no interest in understanding; they only want to air their own opinions. Doing wrong leads to disgrace, and scandalous behavior brings contempt.


Proverbs 1:5-7
Let the wise listen to these proverbs and become even wiser. Let those with understanding receive guidance by exploring the meaning in these proverbs and parables, t ...[text shortened]... answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Of course, the current righteous generation are made up of those souls who don't pluck de-contextualised quotes from dusty texts to validate their own distorted understanding of morality and justice.

Originally posted by @fmf
Nicksten has taken a 25 word sliver of ancient text called Psalms 14:1 but he seeks to lop off the last 14 words of it, and only use the first 11 words, which - as it happens - don't apply to me as I have never said 'in my heart' "There is no God" and this is case closed, apparently.

Two things come to my mind [1] it seems like an awfully tawdry and trite u ...[text shortened]... and [2] there seems to be a kind of beyond-parody feel to Nicksten's performance on this thread.

Originally posted by @divegeester
WOW!!

Look how many scriptures with “fool” in the text that google can find

🙄

Originally posted by @nicksten
[the threat of eternal torture] obviously doesn't scare you as you know for a fact that God doesn't exist, so why be scared. Right?

Originally posted by @fmf
What would be the moral justification, in your mind, for your god figure torturing me [as opposed to just letting me die, for example] for not being a Christian and not believing he exists ~ or for being a Hindu or a Sikh [if I were one] etc.? It's a fair question I think: it's essentially what the thread topic is. [BUMP for Nicksten]