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‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

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Originally posted by @fmf
Why are you behaving this way?
I told you five minutes ago. You don’t remember?
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Originally posted by @romans1009
I told you five minutes ago. You don’t remember?
????
How come emoticons turn into four question marks on this website?

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In all seriousness, if you don’t think you repeat yourself to an excessive degree and ask the same questions over and over when the answer already has been given, I would suggest you read your posts from the last week or have a loved one do it and offer their opinion.

It’s very noticeable. I used to think you did it as trolling but now I’m not sure, particularly because you denied you were trolling one of the last times you did it.

If you’re genuinely not trolling, it might be a medical issue. They have patches now that help with short-term memory loss. They’re quite effective, though not cheap.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
The horse isn't dead.

How do you reconcile being a good Christian when you prolong a deliberate deception? And is attention on an internet forum really worth compromising your Christian values.
You need help.

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Originally posted by @romans1009
If you’re genuinely not trolling, it might be a medical issue. They have patches now that help with short-term memory loss. They’re quite effective, though not cheap.
A "medical issue"?

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Originally posted by @fmf
A "medical issue"?
If you’re genuinely not trolling, it might be a medical issue. They have patches now that help with short-term memory loss. They’re quite effective, though not cheap.

Do you remember reading that?

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Originally posted by @romans1009
If you’re genuinely not trolling, it might be a medical issue. They have patches now that help with short-term memory loss. They’re quite effective, though not cheap.

Do you remember reading that?
Why are you posting in this style?

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Originally posted by @fmf
Why are you posting in this style?
For the record, you already asked me this, though in a different way, and I ignored the question.

But I’m curious on this latest iteration what you mean by “style?” In what style am I posting and is it different than my previous style?

Maybe we can debate my posting style for the next 48 hours if you don’t plan to ask me my view of good works and filthy rags for the 75th time.

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Originally posted by @romans1009
In what style am I posting and is it different than my previous style?
Stuff like characterizing some disagreement or something you disapprove of as a "medical issue" is a certain kind of posting style which is not real debate; it's just banter. It's a different style. It's not "substantive".

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Originally posted by @fmf
Stuff like characterizing some disagreement or something you disapprove of as a "medical issue" is a certain kind of posting style which is not real debate; it's just banter. It's a different style. It's not "substantive".
I was trying to determine if your frequent repeating of the same questions over and over was trolling or not. You said you weren’t trolling, so what’s the alternative? My guesses were a reading comprehension problem concerning spiritual matters, which is why I posted the verse from 1 Corinthians, or a short-term memory problem. If you have neither, I’m at a loss to know why you do what you do.

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Originally posted by @romans1009
I was trying to determine if your frequent repeating of the same questions over and over was trolling or not. You said you weren’t trolling, so what’s the alternative? My guesses were a reading comprehension problem concerning spiritual matters, which is why I posted the verse from 1 Corinthians, or a short-term memory problem. If you have neither, I’m at a loss to know why you do what you do.
I am being serious. All the personal flaws of mine to which you seek to attribute my disagreements with you, can just as easily be applied to you and your reasons. So you are not really debating when you come out with stuff like: our disagreement is caused by my finite mind and limited understanding and perspectives unless you accept that your beliefs might also be a funtion of your finite mind and limited understanding and perspectives.

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Originally posted by @fmf
I am being serious. All the personal flaws of mine to which you seek to attribute my disagreements with you, can just as easily be applied to you and your reasons. So you are not really debating when you come out with stuff like: our disagreement is caused by my [b]finite mind and limited understanding and perspectives unless you accept that your beliefs might also be a funtion of your finite mind and limited understanding and perspectives.[/b]
You’re changing what the initial issue was. You tried to compare ascertaining whether the divinity of Christ was true with knowing all the ways of an omniscient, omnipotent and completely holy God who sees things from an eternal perspective:

“Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.“

(Isaiah 46:9-11)

Enough evidence exists for Christ’s divinity that a human being with a finite mind can reasonably conclude that it is true.

It is a much more daunting task for a human being with a finite mind to know all the ways and purposes of God, particularly if He does not want humans to know everything.

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.“

(Isaiah 55:8-9)

“The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.”

(Deuteronomy 29:29)

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Originally posted by @romans1009
You tried to compare ascertaining whether the divinity of Christ was true with knowing all the ways of an omniscient, omnipotent and completely holy God who sees things from an eternal perspective:
All I am saying is that your beliefs about supernatural causality might well be caused by your finite mind and limited understanding and perspective, just as my lack of belief in supernatural causality might well be caused by my finite mind and limited understanding and perspective.

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Originally posted by @fmf
All I am saying is that your beliefs about supernatural causality might well be caused by your finite mind and limited understanding and perspective, just as my lack of belief in supernatural causality might well be caused by my finite mind and limited understanding and perspective.
That’s what you’re saying now but wasn’t what you were saying when I busted you on your false comparison.

But even with this latest version of your statement, what I wrote is still applicable. I’m Ok with not knowing everything. I realize humans in some ways are like fish in a pond who don’t know, and can never know, that a road is 50 yards away and a farmhouse is 100 yards away.

You apparently think not knowing everything from a theological perspective should be a stumbling block to believing in the existence of God. Or that the unflattering conclusions you draw about God with your finite mind and limited understanding are accurate. I don’t agree on either point.

And just as God didn’t owe Job an explanation, He doesn’t owe us one either.

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Originally posted by @jacob-verville
Done & done. 🙂
Right.

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