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Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleAnd as I said to you 10-20 pages ago, I am not interested in whatever interpretation of ancient text you are able to offer up to support your belief as we disagree on its interpretation.
10-20 pages ago I outlined why I felt the way that I did and why eternal suffering is within the Gospel. Correct?
You then said that I need to put it in terms of the John 3:16; I gave reasons and you offered up some faux moral outrage.
That led us to discussing how you do not believe that the other parts of the Bible, which I use, are [i]in th ...[text shortened]... what you believe.
It sounds like you aren't confident enough to have a conversation about it!
What my OP puts forward is not an argument based on ancient text, it is an argument based on the compete nonsensical and a moral basis of the horrible beliefs you have about your religion.
Your mission (should you choose to accept it), is to prove that it is not nonsensical and not amoral.
Do you understand what you need to do?
Do not post more ancient text which says more of less.... “it is good sense and it is moral to burn people alive forever because they reject my wonderful love for them”... if you continue to do this I will probably be tempted to mock you.
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07 Feb 18
Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleHave you found the confidence to return to the debates forum where you have been called out for being a racist for the frankly astonishing stuff about genetic studies on racial inferiorities which you posted in there?
It sounds like you aren't confident enough to have a conversation about it!
Or are you hiding behind automod preventing you, or are you scared you will be picked on or do you want to change your username to hide from crap you posted?
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Originally posted by @romans1009I have made no false comparison. I've simply said that if you are going to "debate" by seeking to explain disagreements in terms of personal shortcomings, then such spurious speculation can be aimed at you too. In other words: if you're going to debate, debate properly.
That’s what you’re saying now but wasn’t what you were saying when I busted you on your false comparison.
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Originally posted by @fmfYou’re retreating into an impersonal generality to avoid the specific claim you made that was blown out of the water.
I have made no false comparison. I've simply said that if you are going to "debate" by seeking to explain disagreements in terms of personal shortcomings, then such spurious speculation can be aimed at you too. In other words: if you're going to debate, debate properly.
07 Feb 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterOh yeah, as I thought you would do, you are using your friend's tactic of cleverly ignoring & deleting PM questions after asking for me to PM you for a response.
Right.
THE WIT ON THIS GUY!
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Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleIf this is what you thought I would do, then why did you send the PM?
Oh yeah, as I thought you would do, you are using your friend's tactic of cleverly ignoring & deleting PM questions after asking for me to PM you for a response.
Originally posted by @divegeesterThe real topic here is how you call yourself a Christian but basically reject the Bible.
And as I said to you 10-20 pages ago, I am not interested in whatever interpretation of ancient text you are able to offer up to support your belief as we disagree on its interpretation.
What my OP puts forward is not an argument based on ancient text, it is an argument based on the compete nonsensical and a moral basis of the horrible beliefs you ha ...[text shortened]... nderful love for them”[/i]... if you continue to do this I will probably be tempted to mock you.
How do you do that?
I have already stated pretty extensively why I believe what I believe 10-20 pages ago, and I will do so again later.
But the above question is a pressing one that you should desire to respond to.
07 Feb 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterBecause 8 seconds of clicking & clacking isn't much of an investment.
If this is what you thought I would do, then why did you send the PM?
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Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleNo, the real topic is my OP which you are failing epically to counter.
The real topic here is how you call yourself a Christian but basically reject the Bible.
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Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleThen why complain when the return on that investment isn’t much either.
Because 8 seconds of clicking & clacking isn't much of an investment.
I on the other hand received quite a good return on the even smaller investment of deleting your email without reading it.
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Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleI look forward to further dismantling your frilly attempts to justify - the premise of - eternally torturing people whom you love so much that you would die for them -
I have already stated pretty extensively why I believe what I believe 10-20 pages ago, and I will do so again later.
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Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleSend me a PM about it.
The real topic here is how you call yourself a Christian but basically reject the Bible.
How do you do that?
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07 Feb 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterI am 100% positive that changing my name would not fool anyone. Indeed, I intend to keep the same avatar for an extended period of time to emphasize that I am not hiding. Perhaps I will even say in several threads that I am active in that "this is Jacob Verville under my new name."
Have you found the confidence to return to the debates forum where you have been called out for being a racist for the frankly astonishing stuff about genetic studies on racial inferiorities which you posted in there?
Or are you hiding behind automod preventing you, or are you scared you will be picked on or do you want to change your username to hide from crap you posted?
I am also very positive that, even if a year or two passes, you will still occasionally call me Jacob just to remind me that you know my original name.
And that's fine. Good for you. Who's stopping you.
... And I told you: I will post about that again in the future.
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Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleWhy not start a thread on it?
But the above question is a pressing one that you should desire to respond to.