02 Jan 10
Originally posted by whodeyPenn State is the one Big Ten team that has done well in the bowls the last few years.
No doubt, you will say that is why my Buckeyes won. But you know what, so what if you are right. I'll take what I can get. A win is a win and we are Rose Bowl Champs!!! 😀
As for being unimpressive, how about those poor Bearcats? Can anyone say "mercyrule"? Those Gators are giving them a rude introduction into the SEC. Oh well, I guess Texas is next ...[text shortened]... the list. Then again, Penn State beat LSU. I thoroughly enjoyed that. Who woulda thunk it?
02 Jan 10
Originally posted by no1marauderNah! They sucked last year too, but somehow got elevated by sportwriters because of the bowl wins. SEC is still stronger. B10 is underrated! OSU really dismantled oregon! BTW welcome back! Hope you had a happy x-mas and new year's!
Since the Pac-10 "sucks" and is "terrible" this year because of their bowl record, they must have been the strongest conference last year when their squads went 5-0 in bowls.
02 Jan 10
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Originally posted by EladarThe SEC would rather pick on teams they can whip to make them look that much better. Alabama made the mistake of playing Utah last year and they made Alabama look stupid, don't look for them to make the same mistake in the future.
whodey,
Have you seen LSU play this year? They were pretty bad.
I really wish TCU had a shot at Florida. TCU should probably be the one that has a shot at Alabama. But since Bama is playing the Whorns, Roll Tide!
Incidently, I would like to congradulate, beforehand, the winner of the TCU vs. Boise State match up as the co-champion with Alabama.
02 Jan 10
Originally posted by whodeyAgain you're getting ahead of yourself, whodey. Let the game be played. Never forget Muschamp knows Saban in and out! Texas has the winningest QB in NCAAF history. McCoy is a scrapper and the Texas D is no slouch. Also don't forget they had plenty of practice against a better D in Nebraska. Never crown a co-champ before there is even a champ yet! TCU should have played Florida, not Cinci. Had they beaten Florida then they might stake a co-claim, otherwise, beating Boise St is really not much of a claim! Look at the total destruction of Cinci by Florida! TCU is much, much stronger, but got a patsy they already beat last year!
The SEC would rather pick on teams they can whip to make them look that much better. Alabama made the mistake of playing Utah last year and they made Alabama look stupid, don't look for them to make the same mistake in the future.
Incidently, I would like to congradulate, beforehand, the winner of the TCU vs. Boise State match up as the co-champion with Alabama.
02 Jan 10
Originally posted by scacchipazzoThey beat that undefeated "patsy" by one point. I haven't seen TCU play at all this year, so I'm reluctant to pick the game, but I expect Boise State to be right there with them AGAIN.
Again you're getting ahead of yourself, whodey. Let the game be played. Never forget Muschamp knows Saban in and out! Texas has the winningest QB in NCAAF history. McCoy is a scrapper and the Texas D is no slouch. Also don't forget they had plenty of practice against a better D in Nebraska. Never crown a co-champ before there is even a champ yet! TCU sh ...[text shortened]... of Cinci by Florida! TCU is much, much stronger, but got a patsy they already beat last year!
02 Jan 10
Originally posted by no1marauderNot this year at all! TCU is a monster team indeed. They should make minced meat of Boise St. with one hand tied behind their back!
They beat that undefeated "patsy" by one point. I haven't seen TCU play at all this year, so I'm reluctant to pick the game, but I expect Boise State to be right there with them AGAIN.
02 Jan 10
Originally posted by Traveling AgainTht indeed was one ugly game! Ole Miss looks set for next year if Snead decides to stay! Doesn't McClsuter return as well?
The Cotton Bowl was the ugliest game I've seen in awhile. OSU 7 turnovers - Mississippi 5 turnovers. Both quarterbacks looked horrible. Coaches didn't look much better.
Yuck, ugly game. Congrats(?) to Ole Miss for the victory.
05 Jan 10
Originally posted by no1marauderThis might be interesting to some of you.
Boise State wins another National Championship!
Here's a list of the teams who finished with a perfect record - no losses or ties- in the past 50 years and still didn't win a national title. (Champion's record in parentheses)
1960 Yale 9-0 (Minnesota: 8-2)
1960 New Mexico State 11-0 (Minnesota: 8-2)
1961 Rutgers 9-0 (Alabama: 11-0)
1962 Mississippi 10-0 (Southern Cal: 11-0)
1964 Arkansas 11-0 (Alabama: 10-1)
1966 Alabama 11-0 (Notre Dame: 9-0-1)
1966 San Diego State 11-0 (Notre Dame: 9-0-1)
1968 Penn State 11-0 (Ohio State: 10-0)
1969 Penn State 11-0 (Texas: 11-0)
1969 Toledo 11-0 (Texas: 11-0)
1970 Arizona State 11-0 (Nebraska (AP): 11-0-1 -- Texas (UPI): 10-1)
1970 Toledo 12-0 (Nebraska (AP): 11-0-1 -- Texas (UPI): 10-1)
1970 Dartmouth 9-0 (Nebraska (AP): 11-0-1 -- Texas (UPI): 10-1)
1971 Toledo 12-0 (Nebraska: 13-0)
1973 Penn State 12-0 (Notre Dame (AP) 11-0 -- Alabama (UPI) 11-1)
1973 Miami, FL 11-0 (Notre Dame (AP) 11-0 -- Alabama (UPI) 11-1)
1975 Arizona State 12-0 (Oklahoma: 11-1)
1975 Arkansas State 11-0 (Oklahoma: 11-1)
1976 Rutgers 12-0 (Pitt: 12-0)
1993 Auburn 11-0 (Florida State: 12-1)
1994 Penn State 12-0 (Nebraska 13-0)
1998 Tulane 12-0 (Tennessee: 13-0)
1999 Marshall 13-0 (Florida State: 12-0)
2004 Auburn 13-0 (Southern Cal: 13-0)
2004 Utah 12-0 (Southern Cal: 13-0)
2006 Boise State 13-0 (Florida: 13-1)
2008 Utah 13-0 (Florida: 13-1)
2009 Boise State University 14–0 ('Bama or Texas: 14-0)
05 Jan 10
Originally posted by Traveling AgainI think it is completely incorrect to look at this as a list of teams that were cheated. Strength of schedule matters and this year pre-bowl season has Texas, Alabama, TCU, Bosie and Cincinnati all undefeated. Of course if only record mattered there would have be no reason for a whole bunch of teams to play tough games such as (Florida playing Alabama) and they would be undefeated too. Especially if Alabama were to win, they would definitely have the hardest schedule of the unbeatens and they clearly would be the National Champions.
This might be interesting to some of you.
Here's a list of the teams who finished with a perfect record - no losses or ties- in the past 50 years and still didn't win a national title. (Champion's record in parentheses)
1960 Yale 9-0 (Minnesota: 8-2)
1960 New Mexico State 11-0 (Minnesota: 8-2)
1961 Rutgers 9-0 (Ala ...[text shortened]...
2008 Utah 13-0 (Florida: 13-1)
2009 Boise State University 14–0 ('Bama or Texas: 14-0)
