Originally posted by whodeyThe Super Bowl and the World Series is the culmination of head to head competition. Bowls are the result of people who don't play the sport deciding which teams should go where.
Its like saying the Super Bowl means nothing or the World Series mean nothing. You play the regular season in the hopes of playing in these types of games.
Bowls are exhibition games, nothing more, nothing less.
Originally posted by EladarI have never looked at bowls as exhitition games. I have always viewed them as playoffs....albiet a poor way to conduct a playoff system, but a playoff system nonetheless. So if they are merely exhibition games, why are they then rated after the games in coaches polls after they preform in the bowls? In the end, everyone wants to be #1. That is what sports is all about, unless you play for the Browns 🙁
The Super Bowl and the World Series is the culmination of head to head competition. Bowls are the result of people who don't play the sport deciding which teams should go where.
Bowls are exhibition games, nothing more, nothing less.
Originally posted by SmookiePThis reeks on many levels. First of all, he told his players he was not going anywhere, which was a lie. Then he decides to turn tail and leave before the team plays in the biggest game in their school history. Of course, it seemed to add fuel to the fire when WVU lost their coach and they took on Oklahoma, so maybe it will help Cincy. I just hope it does.
The coach did the right thing by going to Notre Dame, but he did the wrong thing by not making his team the first to KNOW...
Whodey,
You've been duped if you think you're watching play-offs when you watching bowl games. You are buying the hype. It is sad, but I think most people would agree with you. Just because Bowls have been the way its always been, that doesn't mean it is a play off. It just means there are a lot of people making a lot of money on the institution and television stations make more money if the games are hyped.
So if they are merely exhibition games, why are they then rated after the games in coaches polls
If they are merely exhibition games, why do polls change?
Let me give you a hint, if rankings are based on polls, then the system is not a play off system. Polls are beauty contests. Head to head competition means you determine who is number on the field.
Why wasn't Utah number 1 last year? What game did they lose?
Originally posted by EladarBUt I thought Utah was #1. And do you know why I thought they were? It was because Alabama had been ranked #1 about all year and then was beaten by Florida their last game. Alabama then played Utah in the bowl game and got blown out by Utah by a far greater margin than what Florida beat them by. So the bowl game was a huge factor in my thinking Utah was the #! team that year.
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Having said that, I would agree that the whole playoff system is a joke. I don't think anyone here thinks otherwose...although I could be wrong.
Who is offciially number 1 isn't a matter of opinion. Florida received the crystal football and was crowned #1.
It is really rather pathetic. But there's way too much money changing hands (including the trip packages) to change things.
At this point, I could care less about who should be number 1. My opinion is that that decision process is a joke. What I'd like to see is Alabama humiliate Texas. If both Oklahoma and Texas got blown out in their bowl games, I'd be one happy camper.
Originally posted by EladarI can't argue with any of that, however, if bowl games are so meaningless as you proport, why do you care if Bama blows out Texas?
Who is offciially number 1 isn't a matter of opinion. Florida received the crystal football and was crowned #1.
It is really rather pathetic. But there's way too much money changing hands (including the trip packages) to change things.
At this point, I could care less about who should be number 1. My opinion is that that decision process is a joke. ...[text shortened]... xas. If both Oklahoma and Texas got blown out in their bowl games, I'd be one happy camper.
Originally posted by whodeyExcellent point. I'll tell ou why he cares. Because he hates Texas and is an OU supporter! Bowls indeed matter. I'll watch every single one of them and the FCS and other dividion championships to boot!
I can't argue with any of that, however, if bowl games are so meaningless as you proport, why do you care if Bama blows out Texas?
You said bowls in general. There is only one important bowl when it comes to bragging rights and that is the Bowl for the MNC. If Texas loses, then it will be a blow to their program. Mack will not have his second MNC.
The OU bowl game is one of the unimportant bowls. Every bowl, other than the MNC bowl is an unimportant bowl. The MNC bowl in itself is not important, it is the fact that winner is crowned NC that makes it important.
Besides, I really enjoy watching Texas lose. It doesn't happen very often, so it is nice when it does happen. If Texas gets humilated on a national stage, all the better.
Originally posted by EladarI would agree that the majority of bowls before Jan 1 are more or less yawners. These teams are far from being some of the best in the nation. If they chose teams for these bowls based upon who is better, my guess is that pretty much every team from the SEC would be in them, and that just would not look good for the rest of college football now would it? As for the BCS, however, this is the only taste of a play off system we have currently.
You said bowls in general. There is only one important bowl when it comes to bragging rights and that is the Bowl for the MNC. If Texas loses, then it will be a blow to their program. Mack will not have his second MNC.
The OU bowl game is one of the unimportant bowls. Every bowl, other than the MNC bowl is an unimportant bowl. The MNC bowl in itself i o it is nice when it does happen. If Texas gets humilated on a national stage, all the better.
Originally posted by EladarThere is a major difference between Texas and OU in recent years....Texas wins the majority of it's bowl games. Oh, and OU loses to Texas most of the time now in the heads up match on a neutral site.
You said bowls in general. There is only one important bowl when it comes to bragging rights and that is the Bowl for the MNC. If Texas loses, then it will be a blow to their program. Mack will not have his second MNC.
The OU bowl game is one of the unimportant bowls. Every bowl, other than the MNC bowl is an unimportant bowl. The MNC bowl in itself i ...[text shortened]... o it is nice when it does happen. If Texas gets humilated on a national stage, all the better.
Originally posted by whodeyI agree that some bowls are yawners, but I certainly get excited this time of season when the roar of the crowd makes a thunder real loud at a college football game. I grew up on the bowl system.. and I've always been near a large one. My home here in Florida, ie the Orange bowl (hate UM btw) and when I lived in Texas a while back.
I would agree that the majority of bowls before Jan 1 are more or less yawners. These teams are far from being some of the best in the nation. If they chose teams for these bowls based upon who is better, my guess is that pretty much every team from the SEC would be in them, and that just would not look good for the rest of college football now would it? As for the BCS, however, this is the only taste of a play off system we have currently.
I'm saddened that the team I'm loyal to lost to Alabama last week, but I remember the time that the Gators were mediocre at best every single year. So many people are involved in ranking these teams.. usuallly they get it right. Am I wrong about that?
I do believe the best part of the game is hearing the cheer when your team has scored.. it can't be replaced.
Originally posted by SmookiePIf you look how the polls change from week to week you have to ask yourself just how accurate they are. Personally, I think they rank the best of each division in the top 20 instead of really trying to determine who the real top 20 really are. That is the flaw of it all.
. So many people are involved in ranking these teams.. usuallly they get it right. Am I wrong about that?