07 Dec 09
No other team will share it. The Championship will be mythical because the opportunity to achieve the goal of NC was not determined on the field. Have a play-off where each team has a chance at a slot in the play off, then you'll have a true National Champion.
Until then, it is just a popularity contest won by teams that have the right logo on their helmet.
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by EladarJust as long as the logo isn't OU, who really cares??? Lord knows Stoops is mystified about how to win a title.
No other team will share it. The Championship will be mythical because the opportunity to achieve the goal of NC was not determined on the field. Have a play-off where each team has a chance at a slot in the play off, then you'll have a true National Champion.
Until then, it is just a popularity contest won by teams that have the right logo on their helmet.
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by shortcircuitI do. I do because I care more about college football and less about a specific program. Every Division I school should have a shot at the NC, not just the right schools from the right conferences.
Just as long as the logo isn't OU, who really cares??? Lord knows Stoops is mystified about how to win a title.
Utah has a great team last year and with a little luck they could have won the National Championship. The did everything they could, but because they weren't part of the right conference, they didn't get a legitimate shot. That's just wrong.
You can continue being a Whorn if you want, but I'm dealing with a much bigger isssue.
07 Dec 09
Originally posted by EladarDan Wetzel of yahoo sports had an interestingpla to make a playoff system work:
I do. I do because I care more about college football and less about a specific program. Every Division I school should have a shot at the NC, not just the right schools from the right conferences.
Utah has a great team last year and with a little luck they could have won the National Championship. The did everything they could, but because they weren't ...[text shortened]... g.
You can continue being a Whorn if you want, but I'm dealing with a much bigger isssue.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=Ai_oP8e2TNOG.5iDtKl5xHUcvrYF?slug=dw-ncaafplayoff120709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
On this one I agree with you almost entirely. The issue I don't see as fairness as much as I see it as determining who's who by doing it on the field instead of starry eyed voters deciding who plays who and where, especially the NCG. I never begrudge a true champion their hardware one bit. Doing it the current way leaves questions that tarnish the champion's hardware!
That said, under the existing system the two finalists are fair indeed. I thought TCU would be paired against FL, not Cinci. Leapfrogging TCU because they do not play a conf championship gm is unfair and absurd. Cinci had trouble against an unranked team in CT. TCU had no such trouble and destroyed nearly everyone they played.
08 Dec 09
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Originally posted by badmoonThat would be my guess. I think they are the best team of the three unbeaten step children teams who are denied entrance to the NCG. I think that Cincinnati will lose big to Florida, Texas will lose big to Bama, Ohio State will lose big to Oregon and all that is left of interest will be UTC vs. Boise State. In addition, I think that any one of these teams could be Texas. Heck, Ohio State could be Texas.
I'd guess UTC
08 Dec 09
Originally posted by whodeyNotice the point spread is only 4.5 pts. Not exactly an overwhelming spread! I think TX has way more guts than OSU or OU, more recent losers to SEC teams. Bama had a squeaker against Tenessee, unranked. TX has a better offense than Tennessee or Auburn. Mark my words. McCoy is not the winningest QB in NCAAF history by folding under pressure. Nebraska was good practice for TX. Bama's D is not as good as Nebraska's. Had they had any offense they should have beaten TX. Bama's offense is only OK.
That would be my guess. I think they are the best team of the three unbeaten step children teams who are denied entrance to the NCG. I think that Cincinnati will lose big to Florida, Texas will lose big to Bama, Ohio State will lose big to Oregon and all that is left of interest will be UTC vs. Boise State. In addition, I think that any one of these teams could be Texas. Heck, Ohio State could be Texas.
08 Dec 09
Originally posted by shortcircuitThe Alabama quarterback is from Texas, as well.
Well, there are more Texas high school players in the national spotlight now than Florida players. In the QB ranks alone among the top teams you have Andrew Luck at Stanford, Colt McCoy at Texas, Andy Dalton at TCU.
I believe that if you research it, Texas has become a hotbed of football recruitment on par with California, and followed closely by Florida.
08 Dec 09
Originally posted by GalaxyShieldSouthlake! He has come a long way indeed both in athletic ability and winning mentality. Great kid! McCoy is a from a far less affluent area, Graham, but did not exactly grow up poor either. TX is indeed a hot bed of football talent!
The Alabama quarterback is from Texas, as well.
08 Dec 09
Originally posted by scacchipazzoTCU barely got by Clemson (which is not ranked in the Top 25 in the final BCS standings) and wasn't overly impressive against Air Force. Cincinnati beat two teams that are ranked in the BCS Top 20 - Oregon State and Pitt - both on the road.
Dan Wetzel of yahoo sports had an interestingpla to make a playoff system work:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=Ai_oP8e2TNOG.5iDtKl5xHUcvrYF?slug=dw-ncaafplayoff120709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
On this one I agree with you almost entirely. The issue I don't see as fairness as much as I see it as determining who's who by doing it on the f ...[text shortened]... st an unranked team in CT. TCU had no such trouble and destroyed nearly everyone they played.
Cincinnati can score and Florida has lost bowl games where they were big favorites in the recent past (besides the BCS Championship games). And last year Alabama suffered a big letdown after their SEC Championship loss and got manhandled by Utah. I think Cincy-Florida will be a great game. I'm disappointed that TCU and Boise State won't have a chance to show their stuff against BCS league teams.
08 Dec 09
Originally posted by no1marauderNot arguing here, just hypothesizing. Since the Rose Bowl was mandated, and since Alabama & Texas were elevated to NCS game, How would you have juggled the Sugar, Fiesta and Orange bowls such that Cincinnati, TCU and Boise State would have played BCS league teams? I would think that the Cincy - Florida matchup was acceptable, but if you don't match the undefeateds against each other, wouldn't that be a worse fate?
I'm disappointed that TCU and Boise State won't have a chance to show their stuff against BCS league teams.
Just curious as to what you were thinking here.
09 Dec 09
Originally posted by shortcircuitVery good point indeed. Some serious rejuggling of matchups would have to have taken place. Cinci-FL is indeed a great match. Should be one of the more interesting games of the bowl season. I hope FL wins and quites the drum roll for the death of the BCS. I also hope TCU beats Boise St badly, which they probably will. TCU should leave the MWC and join the big12, or SEC like Ark did. What is your analysis of the NCG?
Not arguing here, just hypothesizing. Since the Rose Bowl was mandated, and since Alabama & Texas were elevated to NCS game, How would you have juggled the Sugar, Fiesta and Orange bowls such that Cincinnati, TCU and Boise State would have played BCS league teams? I would think that the Cincy - Florida matchup was acceptable, but if you don't match the ...[text shortened]... each other, wouldn't that be a worse fate?
Just curious as to what you were thinking here.
09 Dec 09
Originally posted by shortcircuitI fail to see why not matching the undefeateds against each other is any big deal in games that mean nothing as far as the Championship is concerned. Anyway, you could have put Cincinnati against either TCU or Boise State in the Fiesta and Florida could have played the other mid-major. Or one of them could have played Georgia Tech.
Not arguing here, just hypothesizing. Since the Rose Bowl was mandated, and since Alabama & Texas were elevated to NCS game, How would you have juggled the Sugar, Fiesta and Orange bowls such that Cincinnati, TCU and Boise State would have played BCS league teams? I would think that the Cincy - Florida matchup was acceptable, but if you don't match the ...[text shortened]... each other, wouldn't that be a worse fate?
Just curious as to what you were thinking here.
It would be a lot more interesting to see if the doubters of the ability of top mid-majors to compete at the elite level were right or wrong. Apparently 3 wins in 4 BCS appearencies haven't done the trick; undefeated Boise State was screwed out of a BCS spot last year.