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Originally posted by scacchipazzoYeah, your supporting data simply overwhelms me. Wait, there is none - I disagree then. 😛
TCU would destroy Oregon.....
Unless you're from the Lou Holtz school of analyzing and characterizing games. After all, he said that Boise St. "destroyed" Oregon. I looked at the 19-8 score and somehow "destroyed" didn't come to mind....
10 Dec 09
Originally posted by BadwaterI watched that game and entirely agree with Lou Holtz. Boise St destroyed Oregon. You don't think limiting Oregon to 8 points is total destruction? Even Stanford could not do that and they also gave Oregon quite the spanking. There is good reason TCU is ranked higher than Boise St. Now do the math. TCU ranked higher, beat Boise St last year in a bowl. Boise St beats Oregon. Hence TCU should make minced emat of Oregon. Much as I like Oregon and believe them to be a great team, I don't think they would get anything but a spanking by TCU. Name o the game is D. Toughest Oregon would face were they to play TCU. In fact, toughest one Boise St. will face.
Yeah, your supporting data simply overwhelms me. Wait, there is none - I disagree then. 😛
Unless you're from the Lou Holtz school of analyzing and characterizing games. After all, he said that Boise St. "destroyed" Oregon. I looked at the 19-8 score and somehow "destroyed" didn't come to mind....
10 Dec 09
Originally posted by no1marauderWell, I believe the bowl pairings are not contrived. There is a lottery draft that is set up each year. The bowls then choose whoever they want to play in their bowl from the pool of available teams. If I was the Fiesta Bowl, I would have preferred two undefeateds playing each other as it would be a better draw at the gate. I know that you knew that too.
I fail to see why not matching the undefeateds against each other is any big deal in games that mean nothing as far as the Championship is concerned. Anyway, you could have put Cincinnati against either TCU or Boise State in the Fiesta and Florida could have played the other mid-major. Or one of them could have played Georgia Tech.
It wou ...[text shortened]... rencies haven't done the trick; undefeated Boise State was screwed out of a BCS spot last year.
But, even if the lottery was not in place, with three undefeated teams and two teams with 2 losses and one with one loss, it really seems logical to match them pretty close to the way they did. You could make an argument for which two undefeateds get paired, but other than that, it isn't too bad.
10 Dec 09
Originally posted by shortcircuitI agree, it isn't too bad this year. A lot of exciting teams playing each other. Like most people my only disappointment is that TCU and Boise are playing each other, but I don't know why the bowl that picked Florida then passed on TCU and took Cincy instead. TCU/Florida would have been a fascinating matchup; two teams with great defenses and potentially potent offenses. Ratings wouldn't be a problem cause it's Florida, and a lot of people like TCU, maybe more than Cincy. Boise vs Cincy would have been great, too; two teams with no defense and extremely potent offenses. I'm afraid of one game turning into a blowout, as it stands now.
Well, I believe the bowl pairings are not contrived. There is a lottery draft that is set up each year. The bowls then choose whoever they want to play in their bowl from the pool of available teams. If I was the Fiesta Bowl, I would have preferred two undefeateds playing each other as it would be a better draw at the gate. I know that you knew that too ...[text shortened]... d make an argument for which two undefeateds get paired, but other than that, it isn't too bad.
10 Dec 09
Originally posted by darvlayI'll go first. I will start on Jan 1.
Are we gonna be picking Bowl Game winners again this year?
Outback Bowl
Northwestern vs. Auburn (Auburn)
Capital One Bowl
WVU vs. Florida State (WVU)
Rose Bowl
Ducks vs. Bucks (this hurts, Or...ore....ducks)
Surgar Bowl
Florida vs Cincinnati (Florida)
Jan 2.
Cotton Bowl
Oklahoma St vs. Mississippi (Mississipi)
International Bowl
South Florida vs. Northern Illinios (who cares?...oh wait, let me flip a coin. South Florida)
Liberty Bowl
Arkansas vs. East Carilina (Arkansas)
Alamo Bowl
Michigan State vs. Texas Tech (Texas Tech)
Jan 4
Fiesta Bowl
Boise State vs TCU (TCU)
Jan 5
Orange Bowl
Iowa vs. Georgia Tech (Georgia Tech)
GMAC Bowl
Central Michigan vs. Troy (ha, ha, ha)
Jan 7
Alabama vs Texas (Bama by at least 24 points)
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Originally posted by scacchipazzoI disagree with Mr. Holtz - 11 points is not "destroyed" and Oregon beat themselves; new coaching, new lines, and it took a couple of weeks to get the gears going. Boise St. prepared all fall for the one game they had to win because all they had was marshmallows afterwards. It happens.
I watched that game and entirely agree with Lou Holtz. Boise St destroyed Oregon. You don't think limiting Oregon to 8 points is total destruction? Even Stanford could not do that and they also gave Oregon quite the spanking. There is good reason TCU is ranked higher than Boise St. Now do the math. TCU ranked higher, beat Boise St last year in a bowl. B ...[text shortened]... . Toughest Oregon would face were they to play TCU. In fact, toughest one Boise St. will face.
I think TCU and Oregon would be a great game. There isn't a defense around that can completely stop Oregon from getting points, including TCU.
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Originally posted by whodeyI like the picks and agree with all of them.
I'll go first. I will start on Jan 1.
Outback Bowl
Northwestern vs. Auburn (Auburn)
Capital One Bowl
WVU vs. Florida State (WVU)
Rose Bowl
Ducks vs. Bucks (this hurts, Or...ore....ducks)
Surgar Bowl
Florida vs Cincinnati (Florida)
Jan 2.
Cotton Bowl
Oklahoma St vs. Mississippi (Mississipi)
International Bowl
South Florida vs. ...[text shortened]... ntral Michigan vs. Troy (ha, ha, ha)
Jan 7
Alabama vs Texas (Bama by at least 24 points)
Even so, I think if there's a possible upset it's probably Cincy over Florida.
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National Championship, Jan. 7 -
Texas vs. Alabama - (Texas)
BCS Bowls:
Rose, Jan. 1 -
Oregon vs. Ohio State - (Ohio State)
Allstate Sugar, Jan. 1 -
Florida vs. Cincinnati - (Florida)
Tostitos Fiesta, Jan. 4 -
TCU vs. Boise State - (Boise State)
FedEx Orange, Jan. 5 -
Georgia Tech vs. Iowa - (Georgia Tech)
Others:
New Mexico, Dec. 19 -
Wyoming vs. Fresno State - (Wyoming)
St. Petersburg, Dec. 19 -
Rutgers vs. UCF - (UCF)
R&L Carriers New Orleans, Dec. 20 -
MTSU vs. Southern Miss - (Southern Miss)
MAACO Las Vegas, Dec. 22 -
Oregon State vs. BYU - (BYU)
San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia, Dec. 23 -
Utah vs. California - (Cal)
Sheraton Hawaii, Dec. 24 -
Nevada vs. SMU - (SMU)
Emerald, Dec. 26 -
Boston College vs. USC - (USC)
Meineke Car Care, Dec. 26 -
North Carolina vs. Pittsburgh - (Pitt)
Little Caesars, Dec. 26 -
Ohio vs. Marshall - (Ohio)
Gaylord Hotels Music City, Dec. 27 -
Kentucky vs. Clemson - (Clemson)
Independence, Dec. 28 -
Texas A&M vs. Georgia - (Georgia)
Champs Sports, Dec. 29 -
Miami (FL) vs. Wisconsin - (Miami)
EagleBank, Dec. 29 -
Army or UCLA** vs. Temple - (Army/Temple)
Pacific Life Holiday, Dec. 30 -
Nebraska vs. Arizona - (Arizona)
Roady's Humanitarian, Dec. 30 -
Idaho vs. Bowling Green - (Idaho)
Texas, Dec. 31 -
Missouri vs. Navy - (Missouri)
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces,
Dec. 31 - Air Force vs. Houston - (Houston)
Brut Sun, Dec. 31 -
Stanford vs. Oklahoma - (Stanford)
Insight, Dec. 31 -
Minnesota vs. Iowa State - (Iowa State)
Chick-fil-A, Dec. 31 -
Virginia Tech vs. Tennessee - (Virginia Tech)
Outback, Jan. 1 -
Northwestern vs. Auburn - (Northwestern)
Capital One, Jan. 1 -
Penn State vs. LSU - (LSU)
Konica Minolta Gator, Jan. 1 -
West Virginia vs. Florida State - (West Virginia)
AT&T Cotton, Jan. 2 -
Oklahoma State vs. Mississippi - (Mississippi)
AutoZone Liberty, Jan. 2 -
East Carolina vs. Arkansas - (Arkansas)
International, Jan. 2 -
South Florida vs. Northern Illinois - (South Florida)
Papajohns.com, Jan. 2 -
Connecticut vs. South Carolina - (Connecticut)
Valero Alamo, Jan. 2 -
Texas Tech vs. Michigan State - (Michigan State)
GMAC, Jan. 6 -
Central Michigan vs. Troy - (Troy)
11 Dec 09
Originally posted by BadwaterBoise St, a defenseless team did. How about the other two losses? Who beat Oregon in those? Oregon again, of course! were the gears not going? Had kelly only coached oregon a day or two by then? Who stopped Oregon from preparing for Boise St? The non-marshmallows later in the schedule? I admire and respect Holtz and firmly believe he was right on this game. The final score spread is not the destroy part. Holding a potent offense to 8 points and getting in the head of their then best running back is pretty much destruction indeed! I am also not convinced they will necessarily beat OSU. Tressel with a month to game plan can be quite formidable. Remember no one gave Tressel's team a chance against Miami in 2003. It will be a more than entertaining matchup!
I disagree with Mr. Holtz - 11 points is not "destroyed" and Oregon beat themselves; new coaching, new lines, and it took a couple of weeks to get the gears going. Boise St. prepared all fall for the one game they had to win because all they had was marshmallows afterwards. It happens.
I think TCU and Oregon would be a great game. There isn't a defense around that can completely stop Oregon from getting points, including TCU.
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Originally posted by BadwaterYou agree with me? :'( Well its about time!! ðŸ˜
I like the picks and agree with all of them.
Even so, I think if there's a possible upset it's probably Cincy over Florida.
As for Cincy having a chance against Florida, however, we will have to part ways once again. Sorry mate. I just hope they don't get humilated. Don't get me wrong, I am pullin for them, but I do have two eyes ya know.
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Originally posted by scacchipazzoThe other two losses? Which other loss besides Stanford are you referring to?
Boise St, a defenseless team did. How about the other two losses? Who beat Oregon in those? Oregon again, of course! were the gears not going? Had kelly only coached oregon a day or two by then? Who stopped Oregon from preparing for Boise St? The non-marshmallows later in the schedule? I admire and respect Holtz and firmly believe he was right on this g ...[text shortened]... ave Tressel's team a chance against Miami in 2003. It will be a more than entertaining matchup!
Oregon was their own enemy on Sept 9. The proof is in the fact that since that first game with a new coaching staff that they have not put in a performance that remotely resembled the one against Boise St. Boise St.'s marshmallows are irrelevant to that discussion but perhaps I need not be surprised when the irrelevant is brought up by any who can't stick to task.
I'm so happy that you like Holtz - is this the same moron who declared ND would be in the national title hunt? The one with the bad hairpiece? He's an idiot but he sells viewers. The final score is the destroy part. 19-8 = not destroy. 42-3 = destroy.
But if it makes you feel good to take linguistic liberties then you go on with your bad self.
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Originally posted by whodeyI just said I agree with Gators vs. Wildcats. If I was to have to pick an upset, though, that would be the one.
You agree with me? :'( Well its about time!! ðŸ˜
As for Cincy having a chance against Florida, however, we will have to part ways once again. Sorry mate. I just hope they don't get humilated. Don't get me wrong, I am pullin for them, but I do have two eyes ya know.