23 Nov 06
Originally posted by ElleEffSeeeI think you will find that the proportion of left-handed test batsmen is much higher than 1 in 10, certainly in the last 25 years.
7 wickets out of 32 were left handers, but only 1 people in 10 are left handed. That means he's particularly good at getting leftys out doesn't it? 😕
24 Nov 06
Good job it's a five Test series.
England never wins the first Test anyway.
Our tail effectively starts with Jones now, although Giles might add a few runs, so with the top order out that's this game over.
A few good individual performances might provide some entertainment.
Good to see Hoggy get Gilchrist for a duck. A year ago Gilly had never been out lbw to a seam bowler. Hoggy was the first to get him lbw and he does the same again for a duck!
24 Nov 06
Originally posted by VargLara,Bravo,Kallis,Smith,Gibbs,Devilliers and Chanderpaul are some of the best batsmen against spin ,they handled the best spinner of all time in Warnie.
Are the WIndians and Saffers better players of spin than India and the Lankans?
Because Monty did pretty well against them!
Just because the Indians and Pakistani's are exposed to more spin does not mean they are better batsmen against it.
24 Nov 06
Originally posted by VargWell they got their 600 with good contributions from the WEAK Clarke,and those bowlers Lee 43 no (i did say he is an allrounder now) and the other Clark 39 .
Too early to say, after Ponting and Hussey we have Clarke who is pretty weak, Gilchrist is in shocking form and then the bowlers.
With some decent bowling Aus could be rolled over for 400-ish.
I agree Flintoff is not Captain material though.
I don't think he's smart enough.
McGrath takes 2 wickets in 2 balls,not bad for a bloke Botham said was to old ,just wait for Warnie to spin his magic on a pitch that is starting to dry and crack.
24 Nov 06
Originally posted by boarmanI still think Clarke is over-rated.
Well they got their 600 with good contributions from the WEAK Clarke,and those bowlers Lee 43 no (i did say he is an allrounder now) and the other Clark 39 .
McGrath takes 2 wickets in 2 balls,not bad for a bloke Botham said was to old ,just wait for Warnie to spin his magic on a pitch that is starting to dry and crack.
Just look at his record.
One decent score doesn't make that wrong.
24 Nov 06
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Originally posted by VargHe has a pretty good record ,hundred on debut ,hundred on debut away from home ,
I still think Clarke is over-rated.
Just look at his record.
One decent score doesn't make that wrong.
I think its comparable to Ricky Pontings at same time in their careers and look at what Ricky is achieving.I would like to have Clarke in my side than not.
Sorry for being pretty blunt with you but i like good debate .
England have definitely got a long road ahead of them but they do have Petersen at the crease.
24 Nov 06
Originally posted by ElleEffSeeeBloody hell.
7 wickets out of 32 were left handers, but only 1 people in 10 are left handed. That means he's particularly good at getting leftys out doesn't it? 😕
It would depend on how many lefties that he bowled to.
The point was though that Aus are rich with lefties and the left arm finger spinner is going to have to work harder because he brings the ball into to them
"So the left arm spinner is going to have to work harder to get the left hander out (obviously not impossible)."
24 Nov 06
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Originally posted by Ian68Just to follow that up using the Sky sports squad list of Test Batters
I think you will find that the proportion of left-handed test batsmen is much higher than 1 in 10, certainly in the last 25 years.
I have not included bowling all rounders like Brett Lee or C Vass.
The lists can be found at
http://home.skysports.com/club.aspx?clid=1614&cpid=intc
1. Aus - 5 lefties of 9.
2. SA - 3 lefties of 8.
3. Ind - 4 lefties of 8.
4. SA - 1 lefty of 9.
5. SL - 3 lefty of 7.
6. NZ - 2 lefties of 8.
7. Pak - 2 of 8.
8. WI - 4 of 9.
24 of 66 = 36% (roughly).
So to use the argument put forward by Elf that the 7 of 32 make him good to left handers ( 7 of 32 = 26% ) - well now that says he is rubbish against the left hander. 😕
25 Nov 06
Originally posted by invigorateHe is giving Dads Army bowlers a break. Run England stupid a bit, put them in before lunch, and have them wiped out at the end of the day.
Is Ponting trying to increase his average at the risk of drawing the game?
Whilst it unlikely we can bat for 6 sessions, it would be jolly satisfying to see the arrogant Tasmanian devil proved wrong.