Originally posted by dottewellHere's the quick and dirty way to get a translation:
Since it seems I don't speak French, perhaps you'd be so good as to translate the section I posted. I'd love to know what it said.
It's good to see you admit your belief that the best way to fight what you see as propoganda from one side is with propoganda from the other.
What are the salient facts you think this article brings to light which have been ignored elsewhere?
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And, in the name of my people, I want to express my infinite recognition with the parents of the Israeli victims, civil and military, whose loved beings also fell so that I can live upright in my identity. That they know that I cry them with them.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungHow beautiful. I'm sure Goebbels had a few Polish or French or even Dutch make similar statements. Apparently Israel has its own Lebanese version of Lord Haw Haw.
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And, in the name of my people, I want to express my infinite recognition with the parents of the Israeli victims, civil and military, whose loved beings also fell so that I can live upright in my identity. That they know that I cry them with them.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundActually you're wrong. I meant Lord Haw Haw who was born in Brooklyn to an English mother and Irish-American father. He moved to England when he was 15 and was an English citizen before becoming a traitor during WWII. www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/vohawhaw.htm
Lord Hee haw was Irish.
just sayin is all.
Originally posted by no1marauderhttp://mary-kenny.com/germany_calling_lord_haw_haw.htm
Actually you're wrong. I meant Lord Haw Haw who was born in Brooklyn to an English mother and Irish-American father. He moved to England when he was 15 and was an English citizen before becoming a traitor during WWII. www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/vohawhaw.htm
According to this he grew up in Galway. . .(born in the US though, you're right there)
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundWhy do you think he and his family left Ireland in 1921? HINT: What happened in Ireland in 1921?
http://mary-kenny.com/germany_calling_lord_haw_haw.htm
According to this he grew up in Galway. . .(born in the US though, you're right there)
www.heretical.com/British/joyce.html
I'd say he was British; that's what the court which hung him said (if he was not British he could hardly be tried and executed for treason against Great Britain could he?).
Originally posted by no1marauderhttp://www.slamnet.org.uk/kmg/farlingaye/bbc1945/ireland.htm
Why do you think he and his family left Ireland in 1921? HINT: What happened in Ireland in 1921?
www.heretical.com/British/joyce.html
I'd say he was British; that's what the court which hung him said (if he was not British he could hardly be tried and executed for treason against Great Britain could he?).
The partition of Ireland happened in 1921
He wasn't Brittish, and i think they would've hung him anyway.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundOn what basis do you claim he "wasn't British"? His mother was British, he lived in Britain for 18 years from 1921-1939 and he had a British passport. Would you like to give SOME reason for your stubborn assertion?
http://www.slamnet.org.uk/kmg/farlingaye/bbc1945/ireland.htm
The partition of Ireland happened in 1921
He wasn't Brittish, and i think they would've hung him anyway.
Originally posted by no1marauderI have put the champagne ready in the refrigerator
For a discussion of the authenticity of this article, see http://ambivablog.typepad.com/ambivablog/2006/08/lebanon_a_victi.html
There is a Michael Behe who is the leading proponent of "Intelligent Design" in the United States, a pseudo scientific critique of evolutionary theory. There is no information anywhere on the web that I can find reg ...[text shortened]... propaganda piece. Certainly most of the factual claims in it are laughable in the extreme.
This misuse of English tells me he's not an American, or at least English isn't his first language.
Originally posted by millermanIn this sort of 'life or death' situation I doubt whether anyone is completely independent, free from bias one way or the other.
"This article is written by a Lebanese journalist, an independant journalist, not a Hezbollah sycophant, nor a Syrian one, nor an Iranian one, nor a lackey of the Lebanese establishment."
You choose the words Independant,
Exactly what does Independant mean in your words Ivanhoe?
Weak argument, very weak argument indeed.
"Hello everyone,
As a Lebanese, I feel compelled to write that this man does not speak for the silent majority of us. Most of Lebanon at the moment is conflicted and confused, not to mention frightened of both warring parties. I have yet to meet anyone stocking up on Champagne in anticipation of an Israeli victory, since we can barely get our hands on gasoline in Lebanon.
For a real voice from the silent majority, please visit our blog at thethinkingleb.blogspot.com. You may find some interesting discussion taking place there, much more sober and realistic than the rant published by a TNR that has lowered its standards." (http://www.tnr.com/doc_posts.mhtml?i=w060807&s=behe080706 )
So what does www.thethinkingleb.blogspot.com have to say...
"Do we as Lebanese have the wisdom and courage to do the right thing and insist on Hizbullah's disarming? Will the U.S. and Israel realize that now is the time to remove Syria from the grips of Iran and engage the Syrian regime? Will Hizbullah recognize that their holding on to their weapons is a recipe for civil war? These are the real questions." (Somewhat random selection but rounds off the post nicely don't you think?)
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI do speak French (although far from perfecly). I wanted Ivanhoe to translate it.
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And, in the name of my people, I want to express my infinite recognition with the parents of the Israeli victims, civil and military, whose loved beings also fell so that I can live upright in my identity. That they know that I cry them with them.
Curse you!
Originally posted by Bosse de NageI mentioned earlier that this thread had led me to thethinkingleb. There are some quite interesting opinions and links on there.
"Hello everyone,
As a Lebanese, I feel compelled to write that this man does not speak for the silent majority of us. Most of Lebanon at the moment is conflicted and confused, not to mention frightened of both warring parties. I have yet to meet anyone stocking up on Champagne in anticipation of an Israeli victory, since we can barely get our hands al questions." (Somewhat random selection but rounds off the post nicely don't you think?)
Originally posted by no1maraudermarauder: "Are you not implicitly claiming that this article is "balanced" unlike the stuff from the "Hezbollah propaganda factories" that is on say the BBC or MSNBC?
Ivanhoe: Reading this article one cannot but conclude that the world media fail to report the Lebanon events in a more balanced way. The interpretation which dominates the press headlines are the usual scoops emanating from the Hezbollah propaganda factories.
Are you not implicitly claiming that this article is "balanced" unlike the stuff from th ...[text shortened]... ion returns don't seem to support. Do you know what the term "fifth columnist" means?
No. I said that the "world media" fail to report in a more balanced way.
Originally posted by no1marauderMarauder: " The piece criticizes the elected Prime Mininister of Lebanon, the elected President of Lebanon, the leaders of various influential Lebanese political parties who control the majority of seats in Lebanon's parliament like Michael Aroun and Hakiri while slavishly praising the Israeli invaders. Then he claims the "overwhelming majority" of Lebanese agree with him, something last year's election returns don't seem to support. Do you know what the term "fifth columnist" means?
Ivanhoe: Reading this article one cannot but conclude that the world media fail to report the Lebanon events in a more balanced way. The interpretation which dominates the press headlines are the usual scoops emanating from the Hezbollah propaganda factories.
Are you not implicitly claiming that this article is "balanced" unlike the stuff from th ...[text shortened]... ion returns don't seem to support. Do you know what the term "fifth columnist" means?
He reminds me of you in his explicite attacks on his own leaders and praising the "terrorists".