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AThousandYoung
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Originally posted by dottewell
Since it seems I don't speak French, perhaps you'd be so good as to translate the section I posted. I'd love to know what it said.

It's good to see you admit your belief that the best way to fight what you see as propoganda from one side is with propoganda from the other.

What are the salient facts you think this article brings to light which have been ignored elsewhere?
Here's the quick and dirty way to get a translation:

http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

And, in the name of my people, I want to express my infinite recognition with the parents of the Israeli victims, civil and military, whose loved beings also fell so that I can live upright in my identity. That they know that I cry them with them.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Here's the quick and dirty way to get a translation:

http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

And, in the name of my people, I want to express my infinite recognition with the parents of the Israeli victims, civil and military, whose loved beings also fell so that I can live upright in my identity. That they know that I cry them with them.
How beautiful. I'm sure Goebbels had a few Polish or French or even Dutch make similar statements. Apparently Israel has its own Lebanese version of Lord Haw Haw.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
How beautiful. I'm sure Goebbels had a few Polish or French or even Dutch make similar statements. Apparently Israel has its own Lebanese version of Lord Hee Haw.
Lord Hee haw was Irish.



just sayin is all.

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
Lord Hee haw was Irish.



just sayin is all.
Actually you're wrong. I meant Lord Haw Haw who was born in Brooklyn to an English mother and Irish-American father. He moved to England when he was 15 and was an English citizen before becoming a traitor during WWII. www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/vohawhaw.htm

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Actually you're wrong. I meant Lord Haw Haw who was born in Brooklyn to an English mother and Irish-American father. He moved to England when he was 15 and was an English citizen before becoming a traitor during WWII. www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/vohawhaw.htm
http://mary-kenny.com/germany_calling_lord_haw_haw.htm

According to this he grew up in Galway. . .(born in the US though, you're right there)

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
http://mary-kenny.com/germany_calling_lord_haw_haw.htm

According to this he grew up in Galway. . .(born in the US though, you're right there)
Why do you think he and his family left Ireland in 1921? HINT: What happened in Ireland in 1921?

www.heretical.com/British/joyce.html

I'd say he was British; that's what the court which hung him said (if he was not British he could hardly be tried and executed for treason against Great Britain could he?).

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Why do you think he and his family left Ireland in 1921? HINT: What happened in Ireland in 1921?

www.heretical.com/British/joyce.html

I'd say he was British; that's what the court which hung him said (if he was not British he could hardly be tried and executed for treason against Great Britain could he?).
http://www.slamnet.org.uk/kmg/farlingaye/bbc1945/ireland.htm

The partition of Ireland happened in 1921


He wasn't Brittish, and i think they would've hung him anyway.

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
http://www.slamnet.org.uk/kmg/farlingaye/bbc1945/ireland.htm

The partition of Ireland happened in 1921


He wasn't Brittish, and i think they would've hung him anyway.
On what basis do you claim he "wasn't British"? His mother was British, he lived in Britain for 18 years from 1921-1939 and he had a British passport. Would you like to give SOME reason for your stubborn assertion?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
For a discussion of the authenticity of this article, see http://ambivablog.typepad.com/ambivablog/2006/08/lebanon_a_victi.html

There is a Michael Behe who is the leading proponent of "Intelligent Design" in the United States, a pseudo scientific critique of evolutionary theory. There is no information anywhere on the web that I can find reg ...[text shortened]... propaganda piece. Certainly most of the factual claims in it are laughable in the extreme.
I have put the champagne ready in the refrigerator


This misuse of English tells me he's not an American, or at least English isn't his first language.

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Originally posted by millerman
"This article is written by a Lebanese journalist, an independant journalist, not a Hezbollah sycophant, nor a Syrian one, nor an Iranian one, nor a lackey of the Lebanese establishment."

You choose the words Independant,

Exactly what does Independant mean in your words Ivanhoe?

Weak argument, very weak argument indeed.
In this sort of 'life or death' situation I doubt whether anyone is completely independent, free from bias one way or the other.

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"Hello everyone,

As a Lebanese, I feel compelled to write that this man does not speak for the silent majority of us. Most of Lebanon at the moment is conflicted and confused, not to mention frightened of both warring parties. I have yet to meet anyone stocking up on Champagne in anticipation of an Israeli victory, since we can barely get our hands on gasoline in Lebanon.

For a real voice from the silent majority, please visit our blog at thethinkingleb.blogspot.com. You may find some interesting discussion taking place there, much more sober and realistic than the rant published by a TNR that has lowered its standards." (http://www.tnr.com/doc_posts.mhtml?i=w060807&s=behe080706 )

So what does www.thethinkingleb.blogspot.com have to say...

"Do we as Lebanese have the wisdom and courage to do the right thing and insist on Hizbullah's disarming? Will the U.S. and Israel realize that now is the time to remove Syria from the grips of Iran and engage the Syrian regime? Will Hizbullah recognize that their holding on to their weapons is a recipe for civil war? These are the real questions." (Somewhat random selection but rounds off the post nicely don't you think?)

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Here's the quick and dirty way to get a translation:

http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

And, in the name of my people, I want to express my infinite recognition with the parents of the Israeli victims, civil and military, whose loved beings also fell so that I can live upright in my identity. That they know that I cry them with them.
I do speak French (although far from perfecly). I wanted Ivanhoe to translate it.

Curse you!

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
"Hello everyone,

As a Lebanese, I feel compelled to write that this man does not speak for the silent majority of us. Most of Lebanon at the moment is conflicted and confused, not to mention frightened of both warring parties. I have yet to meet anyone stocking up on Champagne in anticipation of an Israeli victory, since we can barely get our hands al questions." (Somewhat random selection but rounds off the post nicely don't you think?)
I mentioned earlier that this thread had led me to thethinkingleb. There are some quite interesting opinions and links on there.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Ivanhoe: Reading this article one cannot but conclude that the world media fail to report the Lebanon events in a more balanced way. The interpretation which dominates the press headlines are the usual scoops emanating from the Hezbollah propaganda factories.

Are you not implicitly claiming that this article is "balanced" unlike the stuff from th ...[text shortened]... ion returns don't seem to support. Do you know what the term "fifth columnist" means?
marauder: "Are you not implicitly claiming that this article is "balanced" unlike the stuff from the "Hezbollah propaganda factories" that is on say the BBC or MSNBC?

No. I said that the "world media" fail to report in a more balanced way.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Ivanhoe: Reading this article one cannot but conclude that the world media fail to report the Lebanon events in a more balanced way. The interpretation which dominates the press headlines are the usual scoops emanating from the Hezbollah propaganda factories.

Are you not implicitly claiming that this article is "balanced" unlike the stuff from th ...[text shortened]... ion returns don't seem to support. Do you know what the term "fifth columnist" means?
Marauder: " The piece criticizes the elected Prime Mininister of Lebanon, the elected President of Lebanon, the leaders of various influential Lebanese political parties who control the majority of seats in Lebanon's parliament like Michael Aroun and Hakiri while slavishly praising the Israeli invaders. Then he claims the "overwhelming majority" of Lebanese agree with him, something last year's election returns don't seem to support. Do you know what the term "fifth columnist" means?

He reminds me of you in his explicite attacks on his own leaders and praising the "terrorists".

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