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Sonhouse is being a hypocrite again. He loved Bill Barr until now.

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Of course. @Sonhouse and the Democrats complain about loss of democracy due to these Republican initiatives as a scare tactic. But it is the people that doing the complaining that are doing the cheating, causing democracy to be greatly marred.

It's all about a struggle for power. nothing more, nothing less.

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@earl-of-trumps said
Of course. @Sonhouse and the Democrats complain about loss of democracy due to these Republican initiatives as a scare tactic. But it is the people that doing the complaining that are doing the cheating, causing democracy to be greatly marred.

It's all about a struggle for power. nothing more, nothing less.
Bill Barr is at least consistent in calling both allegations bunk. Sonhouse thinks republican conspiracy theories are outrageous and should be condemned as "the big lie", but democrat conspiracy theories need to be believed and any condemnation of those must be attacked and hated.

He loved Bill Barr when he called Trump's election fraud allegations BS, now he hates Barr for telling the truth about Hillary.

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Where is Sonhouse. I spect feeding the chickens as he ponders his dilemma here. I am more interested in a simple answer with no unnecessary unrelated references to Barr or Trump or Peter Pan.
I asked my question first!!! Sonhouse, enthrall us, please. What suppression?

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@Earl-of-Trumps
Funny how repubs make these massive DEM fraud claims but even those Ninja dumassses had to admit they found nothing that would change ANY election results but you LOVE to keep up the big zombie repub lies going in your zeal to kill democrat votes. The only real fraud found so far was a handful of REPUBLICANS who tried to use dead mom votes and such and were actually convicted in courts and given a slap on the wrist but a couple of BLACK women with so called fraud are facing YEARS in jail for what would be a slap on the wrist if they were white.
But of course that means nothing to the likes of you or the rest of the repub zombie Trumpite crowd who offer NOTHING in the way of policy and have actually made that non-policy a central feature of the national GOP platform.
So take it and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

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@Metal-Brain
Hey Metalica brain, don't put words in my mouth, I could care less if any Clintons go to jail for real fraud, and Barr DID come down heavy on Trumps 'enemies' and helped ALL of Trump's buddies and you know that full well. Barr had his nose firmly up Trump's ass the whole time he was AG till it got too bad even for a sycophant like Barr to stand, not a good picture and he will go down in history for exactly that.

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@AverageJoe1
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-december-2021

https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/block-the-vote-voter-suppression-in-2020

And OF COURSE you will just poo poo both of those reports but that is on YOU not REAL people who actually see what is going on right in front of our eyes.

So stick those restrictive laws up your pathetic ass.

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@kellyjay said
Can you cite the specific examples with something that backs up your claims, it is
no different than just saying they are doing something without specific examples.
Give links for all voting places in a city the size of San Diego for one. Other examples
of Republican specific examples with ways to validate what you are talking about
would be nice.

Actually, voter ID s ...[text shortened]... ing to be anyone
could vote however many times they like with assumed identities is just okay fine?
I'll post this again...............HERE ARE SPECIFICS
remember, YA' GOTTA' READ THE LINKS
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/5-egregious-voter-suppression-laws-2021

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@jimm619 said
I'll post this again...............HERE ARE SPECIFICS
remember, YA' GOTTA' READ THE LINKS
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/5-egregious-voter-suppression-laws-2021
A lot of accusations about suppressing the black votes, but not much on the
specifics of the laws in question on how, so this is a little more than just another
source of assertions making claims that is what they are doing so far.

Validating votes is not racist; if it is, please explain your reasoning. I'm going
through them; if you know of a specific text in some law that is written, it would be
helpful to see them; otherwise, it appears to be nothing more than more of the
same; an assertion is made; therefore, it is true. By law, anything written will affect
everyone is not just a race; if you can point to something race-related, that would
be useful, but beyond that, anything that affects one area affects them all unless
there is some clause that excludes some areas and is only applicable in others.

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@kellyjay said
A lot of accusations about suppressing the black votes, but not much on the
specifics of the laws in question on how, so this is a little more than just another
source of assertions making claims that is what they are doing so far.

Validating votes is not racist; if it is, please explain your reasoning. I'm going
through them; if you know of a specific text in some law ...[text shortened]... cts them all unless
there is some clause that excludes some areas and is only applicable in others.
It seems as if you cannot glean information
from a plainly stated set of facts, BASED ON NEW LAWS PASSED,
where no problems existed...
The LINK I posted stated the facts better than I am able.
You could easily research the subject yourself, that is, if you
REALLY want the FACTS. .....I believe, however, that you don't want the truth.
You still think TRUMP won the election, too, do ya'? 😛

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@jimm619 said
It seems as if you cannot glean information
from a plainly stated set of facts, BASED ON NEW LAWS PASSED,
where no problems existed...
The LINK I posted stated the facts better than I am able.
You could easily research the subject yourself, that is, if you
REALLY want the FACTS. .....I believe, however, that you don't want the truth.
You still think TRUMP won the election, too, do ya'? 😛
What facts, give the phrasing of the laws that pass and talk about how this does
something to people based on their race alone. If you cannot or will not do that you
have said nothing because laws affect everyone equally, not race-specific unless you
see laws that specifically name race as an objective all you have are an assertion and
nothing but your opinion to back it up. Trump lost the election, I'm not a Trump
apologist if you want to talk about a past President to justify your stance on race
let me know I'll ignore you.

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@kellyjay said
What facts, give the phrasing of the laws that pass and talk about how this does
something to people based on their race alone. If you cannot or will not do that you
have said nothing because laws affect everyone equally, not race-specific unless you
see laws that specifically name race as an objective all you have are an assertion and
nothing but your opinion to back it ...[text shortened]... you want to talk about a past President to justify your stance on race
let me know I'll ignore you.
I never mentioned race, all I mentioned
was VOTER SUPPRESSION...
Odd that you should read more into it than was there.

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@kevin-eleven said
I think it would be great if the USA tried compulsory voting, with a token penalty for starters as it was phased in (e.g., $5.00), and of course while maintaining or expanding mail-in and early voting when legally possible.
That only does any good if you make it easy and free to vote. In the case of the USA, where voting is often made as hard and as expensive as possible in poor gerrymanders, and easy and cheap in rich ones, it would only be yet another tax on poverty.

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@shallow-blue said
That only does any good if you make it easy and free to vote. In the case of the USA, where voting is often made as hard and as expensive as possible in poor gerrymanders, and easy and cheap in rich ones, it would only be yet another tax on poverty.
Right on, BLUE.....3 thumbs up. 😉

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@jimm619 said
Right on, BLUE.....3 thumbs up. 😉
This is the post you responded to, and it is simply not true;
"That only does any good if you make it easy and free to vote. In the case of the USA, where voting is often made as hard and as expensive as possible in poor gerrymanders, and easy and cheap in rich ones, it would only be yet another tax on poverty. with another."
The above statement is total and complete BS.

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