Originally posted by shavixmirIs it true that you only screw animals? Please be specific. I need evidence; names, dates, positions. Otherwise your bravado has no place on this forum! I mean this with all due disrespect! you savage PooPoo dude! What sewer do you screw in?
I seriously doubt anyone's better in bed than me. 😠
But what the hell have I got to do with anything? Don't I generally back up my arguments with articles and things? (except when I'm on a bender of hate)
http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=96c43ca9-ec26-470a-adda-93476ff79799
Last week, the Lebanese army attacked a squalid Palestinian refugee camp that's become infested with Islamist suicide terrorists and guerilla fighters. On May 20, government troops surrounded the camp, with tanks and artillery pieces shelling it at close range. Army snipers gunned down anything that moved. At least 18 civilians were killed, and dozens more injured. Water and electricity were cut off. By week's end, much of the camp had been turned into deserted rubble. Thousands of terrified residents fleeing the camp reported harrowing stories of famished, parched families trapped in their basements.
How did the rest of the world react? The Arab League quickly condemned "the criminal and terrorist acts carried out by the terrorist group known as Fatah al-Islam," and vowed to "give its full support to the efforts of the army and the Lebanese government." EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana also condemned Fatah al-Islam, and declared Europe's "support" for Lebanon. And the UN Security Council called the actions of Fatah al-Islam "an unacceptable attack" on Lebanon's sovereignty. As for the Western media, most outlets ignored the story following the first flurry of news reports.
At this point, please indulge me by re-reading the first paragraph of this column -- except this time, substitute the world "Israeli" for "Lebanese" in the first sentence. Let's imagine what the world's reaction would be if the ongoing siege were taking place in Gaza or the West Bank instead of the Nahr al Bared refugee camp on the outskirts of Tripoli, Lebanon.
First of all, a flood of foreign journalists would descend on the camp to document Israel's cruelty and barbarism, and the story would remain front page news to this day. Al-Jazeera would be a 24/7 montage of grieving mothers swearing revenge on the Zionist butchers, and rumours would swirl of mass graves and poison gas. The Arab League, EU and United Nations would condemn Israeli aggression -- as would the editorial board of The New York Times. The Independent would dispatch Robert Fisk to embed with Fatah al-Islam. And the newspaper's cartoonist, Dave Brown, would produce another award-winning rendition of his signature theme: Jews eating Palestinian babies.
Actually, we don't need to speculate: What I have just written is exactly what happened when the Israeli army invaded the Jenin refugee camp to root out terrorists in April, 2002, a battle that was similar in scale to this month's siege at Nahr al Bared. (At Jenin, 52 refugee camp residents were killed -- most of them gunmen, according to Human Rights Watch. At Nahr al Bared, the figure is 45 and climbing.) The main difference between the two sieges is that Israel's army put its troops at far greater risk by invading Jenin with infantry -- whereas the less humane Lebanese army has simply pummelled Nahr al Bared with explosives from a distance. Jews apparently care a lot more about saving Palestinian civilians than do Lebanese soldiers.
For years, we have been told that Palestinian suffering and "humiliation" is at the root of the Middle East conflict, as well as the Western-Muslim clash of civilizations more generally. This is nonsense: The 200,000-plus Palestinian refugees who live in Lebanese camps are treated worse than dogs -- with no access to decent schools or good jobs -- and no one in the Arab world cares a whit. In fact, many Arabs seem to embrace the same blind anti-Palestinian hatred of which Israel is typically accused. When Lebanese armoured personnel carriers rolled through Tripoli on May 20, they got a standing ovation from local residents. "We wish the government would destroy the whole camp and the rest of the camps," one local told The New York Times. "Nothing good comes out of the Palestinians."
Just as Lebanon's stew of eternally warring Sunnis, Shiites, Christians, Hezbollah terrorists and militarized clans serves as a Mediterranean microcosm for the political dysfunction of the Arab world, this month's events capture perfectly the utter cynicism of the Islamic world's trumped up vilification of Israel, and the West as a whole. As with the Muslim- on-Muslim slaughter in Darfur, Iraq, Pakistan, Gaza and a dozen other hot spots, the siege at Nahr al Bared shows that what inflames "the Muslim street" (for lack of a better cliche) isn't Muslim suffering, but the relatively tiny fraction thereof that jihadi propagandists and their Western apologists can lay at the feet of Jews and Christians.
Muslim blood apparently comes cheap -- but only when it's drawn by other Muslims.
Originally posted by MerkHow am I spin-doctoring?
I try to make it a habit of not responding. I didn't think the point was relevant anyway. It would be if I was asking if the Lebanese were equal to the Isaelis, but I'm not.
The complaint has been about the Jews being so heavy handed that they kill inncocent Paleos. Now here we are, with the Lebanese doing exactly that, and people aren't saying a peep.
...[text shortened]... ? Your post clearly implied that because the local Muslim groups support it, everyone is mum.
It would be if I was asking if the Lebanese were equal to the Isaelis, but I'm not.
Non-sequiter anyone? I mean, you don't hold the two sides as being equal, yet aren't trying to sell your position as "right".
Originally posted by MerkFor this actual attack, no.
Are you trying to blame the Israelis for Lebanon attacking a paleo refugee camp?
I do blame Israel for creating the refugee problem and then refusing to take meaningful steps to resolve it.
One result of that continuing obstinacy is that the camps are recruiting grounds for extremists. A second result is that the host countries are getting extremely tired of playing host -- who would not after 60 years?
It is clear whose fault this is -- Israel's.
Originally posted by spruce112358How is it not, at least equally the fault of the Palestinians? They had a chance to have a state and didn't except. The reason the Pelestinians don't have a state, is because they chose not too.
For this actual attack, no.
I do blame Israel for creating the refugee problem and then refusing to take meaningful steps to resolve it.
One result of that continuing obstinacy is that the camps are recruiting grounds for extremists. A second result is that the host countries are getting extremely tired of playing host -- who would not after 60 years?
It is clear whose fault this is -- Israel's.
Originally posted by Soothfasthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon-Israel_War#Beginning_of_conflict
It's a viable hypothesis, actually. Lebanon was ravaged last year by an utterly unhinged Israeli military bombardment. Now we see Lebanon exhibiting what could be characterized as classic "transferred aggression", wherein a beaten animal vents its frustration by seeking out and abusing an even weaker creature. Israel is very much a terrorist state, as has ...[text shortened]... own facts in accordance to the dictates of their prejudices and corporate masters.
"When asked in August about the proportionality of the response, Prime Minister Olmert stated that the "war started not only by killing eight Israeli soldiers and abducting two but by shooting Katyusha and other rockets on the northern cities of Israel on that same morning. Indiscriminately." He added "no country in Europe would have responded in such a restrained manner as Israel did."[58]"
Originally posted by scottishinnzWhich sides are we talking about that I don't hold equal? I would hold Israeli state action against Palestinian terrorosists and Lebanese state action against Palestinian terrorists as being equal, if that's what you're talking about?
[b]How am I spin-doctoring?
It would be if I was asking if the Lebanese were equal to the Isaelis, but I'm not.
Non-sequiter anyone? I mean, you don't hold the two sides as being equal, yet aren't trying to sell your position as "right".[/b]
Howling about Israeli actions in Jenin or other Paleo refugee camps is almost a daily occurance on this board. Not one single person on this board has condemned the Lebanese for this action.
Why is that I wonder? It's either a) They are more anti-Israeli than pro-Palestinian or b) They hold Israel to a higher standard.
I support all government fighting terrorism. When the Arab world harbors terrorist and there is collateral damage, it is unfortunate, but you'd think they'd get the idea "don't harbor terrorists". I support Israel and Lebannon's right to defend itself from extremists.
Israel is fairly restrained. If my country (the United States) had daily rocket shot over its border you can bet your last dollar that the whole region would be 100% destroyed. There would be absolutely no one in the region alive to complain about collateral damage.
Originally posted by smw6869Well... it looks like I have a stalker.
Is it true that you only screw animals? Please be specific. I need evidence; names, dates, positions. Otherwise your bravado has no place on this forum! I mean this with all due disrespect! you savage PooPoo dude! What sewer do you screw in?
How quaint. You ain't the first, presumably not the last.
Oh well.
I just wish I could remember your name to return the favour.
Originally posted by SoothfastWell, you got the dead part correct.
The name's dead easy to remember:
swm6869 = Single White Male, IQ 68, waist size 69".
Father died of heart attack in 1968.
Mother died of breast cancer 1969.
I'm not stalking. I simply like the same forums that you do. Who would stalk a sewer rat anyway?
Originally posted by shavixmirMe thinks that you are too much of a coward to " Return the Favor " I.ve been asking for it for weeks now. And don't get me wrong, you do have a very good point,but if you combed your hair to the other side nobody would notice! So, you have the right to put down an entire nation with your commie spin ( and you do have that right ). But you call me a stalker when i put one person down ( you ) ! EAT A BEAN! Hypocrite!!
Well... it looks like I have a stalker.
How quaint. You ain't the first, presumably not the last.
Oh well.
I just wish I could remember your name to return the favour.
Originally posted by smw6869Edit:
Me thinks that you are too much of a coward to " Return the Favor " I.ve been asking for it for weeks now. And don't get me wrong, you do have a very good point,but if you combed your hair to the other side nobody would notice! So, you have the right to put down an entire nation with your commie spin ( and you do have that right ). But you call me a stalker when i put one person down ( you ) ! EAT A BEAN! Hypocrite!!
Removed, it was even too rough for me.