I’m so proud of them boys…

@wajoma said
Tarrio is not white so wondering why you'd attempt the race card.

But did you know that your hero Tarrio has a criminal record predating the storming of the Capitol?

2004: Theft conviction.

2012: Indicted for his role in a scheme to rebrand and resell stolen diabetic test strips. He squealed on his fellow crooks and got some milk and cookies from prosecutors. Sentenced to 30 months, only served 16.

Nice guys you've decided to get in bed with.

@wajoma said
Tarrio is not white so wondering why you'd attempt the race card.

BTW ATY tries this all the time, you can't discuss a specific case unless you consider some other case and that list becomes endless. It's just diversion, you've got time to waste on diversions, that's nice for you. I don't, that's also nice.

Again, where were you all those times when the US criminal justice system was clearly doling out unduly harsh sentences?

Your position seems to be that the thugs who violently busted into the Capitol building got sentences that were too harsh because, well, they were just too incompetent to achieve their goal.

@soothfast said
But did you know that your hero Tarrio has a criminal record predating the storming of the Capitol?

2004: Theft conviction.

2012: Indicted for his role in a scheme to rebrand and resell stolen diabetic test strips. He squealed on his fellow crooks and got some milk and cookies from prosecutors. Sentenced to 30 months, only served 16.

Nice guys you've decided to get in bed with.

Yes, I was aware of this. There's a bit more to the story than what you've got, pointless dicussing it with a fanatic. But if anything you're making my point for me about reduced sentences in return for info, Tarrio is facing 22 years.

@soothfast said
Again, where were you all those times when the US criminal justice system was clearly doling out unduly harsh sentences?

Your position seems to be that the thugs who violently busted into the Capitol building got sentences that were too harsh because, well, they were just too incompetent to achieve their goal.

And what goal was that, we've been through this through hundreds of posts over months and months none of you blokes can provide any proof of what the goal was.

Just made up stuff, that get's more preposterous the further you try to explain.

Soothfast's race card just got Trumped, how sad.

@wajoma said
And what goal was that, we've been through this through hundreds of posts over months and months none of you blokes can provide any proof of what the goal was.

Just made up stuff, that get's more preposterous the further you try to explain.

Soothfast's race card just got Trumped, how sad.

You know what is "preposterous"? Your ridiculous "hold yer breath until you turn blue" strategy.

So far, we've got proof from their own words of the Proud Boys A) Going to Washington DC en masse on January 6th, 2021, the day the EC count was to be certified at the Capitol; B) Of 100 or more of them gathering at the Washington Monument (a short walk to the Capitol) that morning; C) Of them being directed to the Capitol by Biggs and another using a bullhorn; and D) Of a stated intention to "Storm the Capitol" that day.

And then after doing so. they headed to the Senate Chamber, where the EC Certification was to be held.

Who looks "preposterous"? The jury that viewed this evidence in its totality and found beyond a reasonable doubt that they had concocted a conspiracy to stop the EC certification or a nutty apologist for them praising their "honesty" and "integrity"?

@wajoma said
And what goal was that, we've been through this through hundreds of posts over months and months none of you blokes can provide any proof of what the goal was.

Just made up stuff, that get's more preposterous the further you try to explain.

Soothfast's race card just got Trumped, how sad.

The "race card" is not germane to the topic. I just find you to be a loathsome hypocrite whose every motivation ought to be doubted. There's no question about the Proud Boys being predominantly populated by white nationalists. As for the actual argument here, you lost that umpteen pages ago. Dig your hole any deeper and you'll find yourself at Chinese customs without your passport.

@soothfast said
The "race card" is not germane to the topic. I just find you to be a loathsome hypocrite whose every motivation ought to be doubted. There's no question about the Proud Boys being predominantly populated by white nationalists. As for the actual argument here, you lost that umpteen pages ago. Dig your hole any deeper and you'll find yourself at Chinese customs without your passport.

No problem we disagree, I would make no demands on your life, labor and property, unfortunately you are unable to reciprocate.

Do you have an example of hypocrisy?

@wajoma said
No problem we disagree, I would make no demands on your life, labor and property, unfortunately you are unable to reciprocate.

Do you have an example of hypocrisy?

...or it's just another thing you throw about like the race card?

@wajoma said
It incentivizes lying, when people are offered reduced sentences and special treatment in return for information, those that have low morals i.e. criminals, don't have any reservations fabricating information. That Biggs, Tarrio etc have received such harsh sentences we can be sure they passed the honesty and integrity test and did not fabricate information.

What would your price be? A year? 2 years?

BTW ATY tries this all the time, you can't discuss a specific case unless you consider some other case and that list becomes endless. It's just diversion, you've got time to waste on diversions, that's nice for you. I don't, that's also nice.

And yet we see above that you DO consider other cases and you judge them as people of low morals and no integrity. When you keep claiming that your favorite criminals are being treated unusually harshly you need to consider other cases to show the contrast. You keep implying that other criminals other than these ones that you approve of somehow deserve their fate but your favorite criminals are being treated with special malice. If you want to claim especially unfair treatement for these criminals, you need to show that most other criminals don't get treated unfairly as well, which you don't do. You love putting criminals in prison except when you find some sort of affinity with them which is blatantly biased. You keep very loudly demanding special treatment for criminals that you like without any justification.

@wajoma said
Yes, I was aware of this. There's a bit more to the story than what you've got, pointless dicussing it with a fanatic. But if anything you're making my point for me about reduced sentences in return for info, Tarrio is facing 22 years.

So the man was a criminal before this - a thief, who violates property rights, which you hold sacred - and you still defend him.

What does it take for you to acknowledge someone is a criminal? What is a criminal to you?

@athousandyoung said

BTW ATY tries this all the time, you can't discuss a specific case unless you consider some other case and that list becomes endless. It's just diversion, you've got time to waste on diversions, that's nice for you. I don't, that's also nice.

And yet we see above that you DO consider other cases and you judge them as people of low morals and no integr ...[text shortened]... keep very loudly demanding special treatment for criminals that you like without any justification.

You and I, and everyone knows there are going to be examples of some being treated better and some worse, then we get into a ridiculous, endless back and forth where you show some guy got it hard, then I counter with some guy got it easy.

Go right ahead, I wont be playing your game.

@wajoma said
You and I, and everyone knows there are going to be examples of some being treated better and some worse, then we get into a ridiculous, endless back and forth where you show some guy got it hard, then I counter with some guy got it easy.

Go right ahead, I wont be playing your game.

No problem. It broadcasts your dishonesty for all to see.

Let's look at the "not a criminal Tarrio" who has "too much integrity" to give information for a lighter sentence.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/proud-boys-enrique-tarrio-arrests-and-lawsuits-11827821

2004: Tarrio is convicted in a theft case. When Tarrio was 20 years old, he was convicted of stealing a $55,000 motorcycle. Miami-Dade County court records show that he was charged with grand theft and two counts of dealing in stolen property. Prosecutors dropped one of the stolen-property charges, and Tarrio pleaded guilty to the remaining counts, both of which are felonies. He was sentenced to three years' probation and ordered to perform community service and pay restitution.

2013: Tarrio is sentenced to federal prison. The FBI arrested Tarrio in January 2013 on charges of misbranding medical devices and possession of, conspiracy to sell, and transferring of stolen goods. Tarrio and two other men were accused of participating in a scheme to re-label and sell diabetes test kits. Tarrio agreed to a plea deal and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison. His sentence was reduced to 16 months because of his "substantial assistance in the prosecution of others," court records show.

Homeboy's lucky he hasn't been shanked for snitching before now.

@athousandyoung said
No problem. It broadcasts your dishonesty for all to see.

In the last few posts I've been accused of racism, hypocrisy and now dishonesty.

What dishonesty?

Haha, ATY and his prison lingo picked up from TV.

@wajoma said
In the last few posts I've been accused of racism, hypocrisy and now dishonesty.

What dishonesty?

Haha, ATY and his prison lingo picked up from TV.

As someone once said when avoiding defending his outrageous claims,

I wont be playing your game.