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05 Feb 21
06 Feb 21
@Duchess64
You're that person at a party that has the uncanny ability to make everyone silent all at once.
Did you know that?
06 Feb 21
@no1marauder saidI don’t think you can get ‘justice’ for something as vast in terms of its numbers and grotesque in its level of cruelty.
For those who can't get beyond the NYT wall, here's a BBC article on the case: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55953967
"The indictment says she "assisted those responsible at the camp in the systematic killing of Jewish prisoners, Polish partisans and Soviet Russian prisoners of war, in her function as a stenographer and secretary to the camp commandant" ...[text shortened]... ar.
What sentence should a secretary and stenographer get if found "complicit" in these murders?
What you can do is never look away and process anyone associated with it through the courts until they are given the status of a criminal if guilty. Secretaries were as vital and guilty a part of the machine as the guards. The Nazi state was almost obsessed with records and statistical information.
The only criteria for leniency or acquittal is wether it was involuntary in the sense of coercion. I’m assuming Germany was conscripting its population by that time.
06 Feb 21
@no1marauder saidExactly.
How many secretaries have been tried for murder using legal concepts of conspiracy theory?
If the New York prosecutor's office nails Trump for some crime, do they then go after
Trump's secretary as an accomplice? Absurd!!
06 Feb 21
@gratis-pawn saidYour a strange incel mofu / sick fascist puppy.
@Duchess64
You're that person at a party that has the uncanny ability to make everyone silent all at once.
Did you know that?
Did you know that?
The post that was quoted here has been removed"Man's inhumanity to man".
When evil people in government do not even follow the laws of the country that they govern,
they set a very bad precedent, they ostensively have said that no one has to obey laws, we have chaos. (although they may not know that)
The Hungarian ÁVH is one such government agency that seeded the thought of a lawless society in the citizens' heads.
And it paid horrific dividends.
The post that was quoted here has been removedOh here we go, the ghost of Eva Braun is stalking the intra web again.
Yes kevcvs57 believes without a shadow of a doubt that every soul in that camp knew exactly what was going on. I take it the duchess is lucky enough never to have smelled a dead body it is hard not to notice I would hate to think what the stink in that camp must have been like.
I know your not very enamoured of the Jewish race duchess but you are attaining new heights of dishonesty on this one.
@no1marauder
See if you can recall Rose Mary Woods.
Ya ya, if you can't, give the name a lookup. You'll remember then lol
Anyway, Nixon committed crimes. And it sure looks like Woods was complicit.
Fair game to go after her? - when she's 95?? This part is theoretical of course. Woods died a while ago (2005 at 88).
@earl-of-trumps saidAre you trying to equate the crimes of a dodgy president and his staff with what the Nazis did to the Jews and other minorities in Europe?
@no1marauder
See if you can recall Rose Mary Woods.
Ya ya, if you can't, give the name a lookup. You'll remember then lol
Anyway, Nixon committed crimes. And it sure looks like Woods was complicit.
Fair game to go after her? - when she's 95?? This part is theoretical of course. Woods died a while ago (2005 at 88).
I don’t expect to hear you use the phrase apples and oranges for a while.
06 Feb 21
The post that was quoted here has been removedRead the thread, it’s already been mentioned that this was a relatively small camp and it was partly being used for extermination purposes so the idea that the commanders secretary didn’t know what was going on is stretching credulity to breaking point.
My assumptions are based on common sense and the pen picture that has been created by the thread.
The only mitigating circumstance IMO will emanate from wether she actively volunteered for the post or wether she was following posting instructions and simply trying to survive the Nazis much like the inmates.
06 Feb 21
The post that was quoted here has been removed“ In a small camp, with mass starvation, execution and even gas chambers... she knew nothin’. ”
Page 2 3rd post from the top
“"The indictment says she "assisted those responsible at the camp in the systematic killing of Jewish prisoners, Polish partisans and Soviet Russian prisoners of war, in her function as a stenographer and secretary to the camp commandant" between June 1943 and April 1945.”
Page 2 3rd post from the bottom.
I’m not expecting an apology just please read a thread before you comment on a post.