Palin lost that debate!

Originally posted by Lundos
Really? I read about Danish soldiers dying in Afghanistan and Iraq all the time. Your prestige level might have hit a low, but that can change. Clinton f.x were very popular abroad.
Europe will wall? From where?

By colonization.

Originally posted by MrHand
No, because W lied to us, launched a relentless propaganda campaign for an ill advised and unnecessary war in Iraq which had many dire consequences including, but not limited to,

- woefully under resourced and terribly executed war in Afghanistan
- further political destablization in the middle east
- billions of dollars wasted that could have been spen ...[text shortened]... ation of our justice department after clear attempts to politicize this department.

et cetera

...Acts of Patriotism that limit the freedom that ain't free, you know.

Truth, Justice, and the American Way!

"Wait a minute. I thought truth and justice was the American way." Richie Havens

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
You're not our allies -- Obama and Biden have been saying all along that we have no prestige throughout the world and no one supports us in Iraq. Moreover, they now have sharia law in Great Britain. Before long, all of Europe will fall and the United States will be truly alone...especially since the Democrats sold Colombia down the river by scuttling CAFTA.

You've got to be kidding! Since you like to link articles so much here is one for you about 2 Danish soldiers being killed in a battle with the Taliban and you're on here telling this Dane that they're not our allies. Exactly what the hell is wrong with you?

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/29/europe/EU-GEN-Denmark-Afghanistan.php?WT.mc_id=rssap_news

You know, you are a true friend to the relatively few Europeans that really do hate us. You give them someone to point at and say to their fellow Europeans "Look, see I told you they're a bunch of arrogant jerks."

Originally posted by Ullr
You've got to be kidding! Since you like to link articles so much here is one for you about 2 Danish soldiers being killed in a battle with the Taliban and you're on here telling this Dane that they're not our allies. Exactly what the hell is wrong with you?

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/29/europe/EU-GEN-Denmark-Afghanistan.php?WT.mc_id=rssap_news ...[text shortened]... nd say to their fellow Europeans "Look, see I told you they're a bunch of arrogant jerks."

And furthermore don't give the Danes of all people crap about the Muslims. They took more crap from radical Islam over a bunch of stupid cartoons. I don't know about you but when I heard that story I went out and bought a six pack of Carlsberg and some blue cheese.

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Before that happens, at least every beer swilling, wrestlin' watchin' American would have the satisfaction of seeing "enlightened" and "nuanced" Europeans have to give up their fancy French cigarettes, effete coffee drinks and let their subscriptions to Le Monde and the London Times expire:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/3118994/Financial-Crisis-So-much-for-tirades-against-American-greed.html

Of course there is backlash at the European economy. The European and American financial houses and banks are so entwined that it would have been moronic to consider anything else. And a lot of banks will be in trouble. The difference is that we can afford to help them. Our politicians are already doing it. Can you say the same?


And just to be clear we'll get no satisfaction in seeing America go bankrupt. We are that enlightened.

Originally posted by Ullr
You've got to be kidding! Since you like to link articles so much here is one for you about 2 Danish soldiers being killed in a battle with the Taliban and you're on here telling this Dane that they're not our allies. Exactly what the hell is wrong with you?

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/29/europe/EU-GEN-Denmark-Afghanistan.php?WT.mc_id=rssap_news ...[text shortened]... nd say to their fellow Europeans "Look, see I told you they're a bunch of arrogant jerks."

I don't care what the Europeans think of us, nor do I want the next president of the United States to worry about what the Europeans think of us. I just want him to do his job which is to protect our citizens and our interests and get out of the way so that we can have jobs to go to and so we can make our own decisions about what's best for us and our families.

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
By colonization.

From whom? And I'm really curious about this one.

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I don't care what the Europeans think of us, nor do I want the next president of the United States to worry about what the Europeans think of us. I just want him to do his job which is to protect our citizens and our interests

This is a good summary of the W. Bush foreign policy. It has worked so well!

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I don't care what the Europeans think of us, nor do I want the next president of the United States to worry about what the Europeans think of us. I just want him to do his job which is to protect our citizens and our interests and get out of the way so that we can have jobs to go to and so we can make our own decisions about what's best for us and our families.

My comment to you has nothing to do with worrying about what they think of us but mainly a reply to your statement that they are not our allies. This is patently false as evidenced by the fact that some of them have shed blood next to our troops in a war that they probably wanted nothing to do with in the first place. It just so happens that we can accomplish the goals that you mention without actually alienating the people that are in fact our allies.

Furthermore I think it is insulting and honestly disgraceful to say to a citizen of another nation who's troops have fought in battle next to ours that they are not our allies. You really don't see anything wrong with that?

Originally posted by Lundos
...The difference is that we can afford to help them. Our politicians are already doing it. Can you say the same?


And just to be clear we'll get no satisfaction in seeing America go bankrupt. We are that enlightened.

Of course we can give the money to the banks -- we have the largest economy in the world. But we shouldn't because then the U.S. would resemble France, where the government controls too much of the economy, taxes and unemployment are high, there are too many barriers to hiring and firing employees, economic growth is anemic, and too many minorities and immigrants are shut out of the economy.

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I don't care what the Europeans think of us, nor do I want the next president of the United States to worry about what the Europeans think of us. I just want him to do his job which is to protect our citizens and our interests and get out of the way so that we can have jobs to go to and so we can make our own decisions about what's best for us and our families.

Building the American Wall?
And how is an American President able to do his job protecting the citizens and maintaining jobs without Europe and dare I say the rest of the world? Have you ever been outside your hometown?

Originally posted by Lundos
From whom? And I'm really curious about this one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/magazine/29Birth-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2003/03middleeast_taspinar.aspx

Originally posted by Lundos
B...Have you ever been outside your hometown?

I live in a metropolitan area of over 5 million. I've traveled throughout the United States and even been to the Caribbean and Venezuela. Next year I plan on going to Buenos Aires.

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Of course we can give the money to the banks -- we have the largest economy in the world. But we shouldn't because then the U.S. would resemble France, where the government controls too much of the economy, taxes and unemployment are high, there are too many barriers to hiring and firing employees, economic growth is anemic, and too many minorities and immigrants are shut out of the economy.

Of course you can. But the result will leave you with a debt of 70% of your GDP and an annual 7% debt increase. Not exactly what you call healthy.

How's the unemployment in the US at the moment? Are you really happy about the American integration of minorities and immigrants? Do you really think the state and the Fed doesn't control you economy?

And just to be clear Europe is a very diverse region.

Originally posted by Ullr
You've got to be kidding! Since you like to link articles so much here is one for you about 2 Danish soldiers being killed in a battle with the Taliban and you're on here telling this Dane that they're not our allies. Exactly what the hell is wrong with you?

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/29/europe/EU-GEN-Denmark-Afghanistan.php?WT.mc_id=rssap_news ...[text shortened]... nd say to their fellow Europeans "Look, see I told you they're a bunch of arrogant jerks."

Thanks for the support.