30 May 06
Originally posted by alive 69I am surprised to hear that you keep getting connected with Hitler and nazi-stuff by people who are not German. I am German myself, although one generation above you (I am 36). I have met many people from other countries, and I have been living in Norway for over six years, and yet nobody has ever accused me of being a nazi. I expected that some older people who have had bad experiences with Germans during the war might be anti-German, but I have never got negative reactions when I said that I am German. In fact, most foreigners I have spoken to find it rather strange that many Germans still feel guilty for things which happened before they were born. I grew up in a Germany in which this guilt was nurtured very much by the schools and society in general. It took me a long time to understand that this also is a form of nationalism ("nobody is as bad and dangerous as we are" ), and not any more healthy than other forms of nationalism. I learned this partly by visiting other countries and talking to people from other countries. So my experience is entirely different from yours.
Hey Guys!
I'm 14 years old and from Germany, but although i'm the generation that hasn't to do anything with it, i'll always get connected with hitler and nazi-stuff!!! I just would like to know why!!! Things happened at that time were horrible but i cannot change it and it's OVER!!!!! If it would change something i apologie standing for every german for t ...[text shortened]... to FORGET some things now!
Have any ideas?
Greetings Bolko alias alive
30 May 06
Originally posted by NordlysHey, Nordlys, I'm one of those older people, born in 1938. I remember the war very well, childhood memories, of course. Had an uncle in the CBI and another in the Pacific Theater. Uncle in the CBI was killed by a German bomber on Thanksgiving day, 1943 and I remember another uncle, his younger brother, coming to give Mom and Dad the news that Grandpa and Grandma had just received the telegram. I was never brought up to hate anyone. And I think very few of those who actually fought the war ever hated anyone and if they did that hate pretty much ended the day the war ended. Look at all the WWII reunions in the past few years where Allied and Axis veterans get together and visit old battlefields and discuss old battles. I'm guessing most anti-German / anti-Japanese sentiment today comes from the young who have an idealized, mistaken idea of what the war really was like. And the same is true for the pro-Nazi movements of today. I might be wrong but I think it primarily happens among the young who have no concept of history and no perspective as to what they are supporting or opposing.
I am surprised to hear that you keep getting connected with Hitler and nazi-stuff by people who are not German. I am German myself, although one generation above you (I am 36). I have met many people from other countries, and I have been living in Norway for over six years, and yet nobody has ever accused me of being a nazi. I expected that some older people ...[text shortened]... and talking to people from other countries. So my experience is entirely different from yours.
31 May 06
Originally posted by DelmerI agree.
Hey, Nordlys, I'm one of those older people, born in 1938. I remember the war very well, childhood memories, of course. Had an uncle in the CBI and another in the Pacific Theater. Uncle in the CBI was killed by a German bomber on Thanksgiving day, 1943 and I remember another uncle, his younger brother, coming to give Mom and Dad the news that Grandpa and Gran ...[text shortened]... who have no concept of history and no perspective as to what they are supporting or opposing.
I was actually involved in both the European and the Far Eastern sectors of conflict at different stages during 1939 - 1945.
I drive a BMW car, and am typing this on a Sony laptop, without ever confusing memories of those days with present reality.
31 May 06
Originally posted by NordlysHey Nordlys!
I am surprised to hear that you keep getting connected with Hitler and nazi-stuff by people who are not German. I am German myself, although one generation above you (I am 36). I have met many people from other countries, and I have been living in Norway for over six years, and yet nobody has ever accused me of being a nazi. I expected that some older people ...[text shortened]... and talking to people from other countries. So my experience is entirely different from yours.
It's good for you to have had that kind of experience but propably you had the luck
1.To meet nicer people :-)
2.And propably you was on another chess site....
I usually play on uChess and hitler-things are bringed up there very often.....or some people who are sore losers just felt sad because they lost....who knows....
Greetinngs Bolko
02 Jun 06
Originally posted by alive 69I read your original post and i am sorry to hear about the small minded, brainless insults you have suffered. These people probably think they are funny or clever. Its very sad.
Hey Guys!
I'm 14 years old and from Germany, but although i'm the generation that hasn't to do anything with it, i'll always get connected with hitler and nazi-stuff!!! I just would like to know why!!! Things happened at that time were horrible but i cannot change it and it's OVER!!!!! If it would change something i apologie standing for every german for t ...[text shortened]... to FORGET some things now!
Have any ideas?
Greetings Bolko alias alive
Having said this, although I feel sorry for young Germans having to live with this dark cloud over their history, there are still many people alive who experienced the results of this psychopath, who was perhaps democratically elected by your great grandparents? They have to live every day with those memories.I would rather be in your shoes than theirs. Perhaps when the last of them have passed on, discussions about "forgetting"will be more appropriate. Until then, I say good luck to you and try to ignore the idiots in this world.
02 Jun 06
Originally posted by alive 69I don't mean to accuse you of anything but, well I have two questions:
Hey Nordlys!
It's good for you to have had that kind of experience but propably you had the luck
1.To meet nicer people :-)
2.And propably you was on another chess site....
I usually play on uChess and hitler-things are bringed up there very often.....or some people who are sore losers just felt sad because they lost....who knows....
Greetinns Bololko
1) Do you ever insult other people on uchess or say anything that could be hurtful to them?
2) How do you react when they say whatever it is they say?
02 Jun 06
Originally posted by Will EverittI didn't say hutful thing to them - i'm a peaceful person :-)
I don't mean to accuse you of anything but, well I have two questions:
1) Do you ever insult other people on uchess or say anything that could be hurtful to them?
2) How do you react when they say whatever it is they say?
It's just because i'm a good blitzer with a good rang on uChess and beat many people there - so they cannot lose i think.......
I try to defend myself after these accusing although i propably don't need to.........
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by shavixmirIt's you who needs therapy, although I doubt it would do you much good with your monomania. You are the most degraded person who regularly appears on this forum.
So, not only a nice person, but also a royal butt-licker and sell-out.
No wonder you're so right wing. I think you need therapy.
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by alive 69Just wanted to get rid of the dross. As I said above I have no problem with Germans, Italians, or Japanese although I was once in conflict with them.
Hey Naragua!!
YOU MISS THE TOPIC!!!
Today's problems in the West centre round the creeping infiltration of those with the 7th century Islamic mindset.
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by NargagunaWhy should you've a problem with germans, italien or japanese?
Just wanted to get rid of the dross. As I said above I have no problem with Germans, Italians, or Japanese although I was once in conflict with them.
Today's problems in the West centre round the creeping infiltration of those with the 7th century Islamic mindset.
Anyway.......somehow you're a funny guy :-)
