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We already have college graduates complaining about not getting work so you want to add to that?
So many college graduates are doing crappy jobs because that is all they can get.
Now imagine EVERYONE is a college graduate.
Free college would be a waste of money at the taxpayer expense.
29 Nov 20
@chesstachio saidDid you read my post? Did you look at TPS?
I’m talking about after graduation and not during school to make money.
What happens if EVERYONE goes to free college at the taxpayer expense and EVERYONE graduates.
Who does the crappy low paying jobs?
First of all, even when eduation is free, not everybody will be able to benefit from it. Not everyone has the brains to become a rocket scientist and not everyone has the stamina to do road works.
Second of all, why are there crappy, low paid jobs?
Why does a doctor earn more than a nurse?
Why does a bank manager earn more than a sewage worker.
If everyone is highly educated, like you think will happen, you’ll see a shift in salaries. If nobody wants to clear garbage, and it still needs to be done, then those salaries will go up to entice people to do it.
Thirdly, there’s always people, who even when highly educated, don’t want to be hassled by complicated jobs.
Think of artists, musicians, writers (not the famous people). They just want an easy job to get by, so they can focus all of their creative energy into their own projects.
Again, how do you think Scandinavia does it?
Have they collapsed into despair because of a well educated workforce and a great quality of life?
Do they not have shops? Gym instructors? Primary school teachers?
29 Nov 20
@chesstachio saidAn education isn’t about getting a good job. It’s about personal development and creating a wider window to appreciate things from.
We already have college graduates complaining about not getting work so you want to add to that?
So many college graduates are doing crappy jobs because that is all they can get.
Now imagine EVERYONE is a college graduate.
Free college would be a waste of money at the taxpayer expense.
Do you think working at the McDonalds becomes less or more fun if you can quote Shakespeare?
29 Nov 20
Free tertiary education normally comes with a requirement to pass exams, including entrance exams.
It gives the hardworking poor opportunities to advance themselves, and kicks out those who can't or won't work.
So responsible parents teach their kids of the benefits of hard work. Dumb or lazy rich kids can get out of the college system and live on their trust funds.
29 Nov 20
@chesstachio saidYou do have to pass the classes you know.
If everyone has the same education how do you separate high paying jobs from labour jobs?
Nobody would stand out.
29 Nov 20
@shavixmir saidDo you want fries with that?
An education isn’t about getting a good job. It’s about personal development and creating a wider window to appreciate things from.
Do you think working at the McDonalds becomes less or more fun if you can quote Shakespeare?
That is the question.
29 Nov 20
@handyandy saidA burger, a burger, my milkshake for a burger!
Do you want fries with that?
That is the question.
29 Nov 20
@chesstachio saidDon't worry, if there is no one to do trash pick up,, the rate of pay of trash picker-upper goes UP until someone does the job. they could literally make more $$$ than a college grad.
In the past high school graduates got picked before grade school graduates.
Then college graduates got picked before high school graduates.
If college is free and everyone goes and graduates how would the workforce pick and choose? And what college graduate would willingly take a crappy job?
Basically this stupid plan just extends school and parents have to put u ...[text shortened]... me after high school... now you want free college so they stay home until 22 years of age or longer?
Supply and demand. You have college grads right now making minimum wage plus. Too many in one area.
If I had a daughter that wanted to go to college and major in Women's Studies or Sociology, I wouldn't let her go - or I would not pay for it.
29 Nov 20
@shavixmir saidAmazing that you think those little vacation spots can be compared to this country.
How do countries like Norway, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Japan, etc. function, with good and widespread education being the norm?
How come they have a better quality of life?
When good education is free or affordable, the general trend is that the society functions better. And some people still work in fast food. Quite often students wanting some extra money.
An ...[text shortened]... on works when everyone is well educated.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Production_System
29 Nov 20
@suzianne saidBut this thread is about ‘forgiving existing loans.” Setting aside for the moment about free college, the issue is about existing loans. Suzianne, are you saying that someone who has gone and gotten a loan for whatever reason should not have to pay the loan back? Wha in the...........
College tuition should be free.
Yes, even for people like you. Especially for people like you.
@averagejoe1 saidIs it only OK if Donald Trump doesn't have to pay his debts back? You've praised his "brilliant business decisions" to file four separate bankruptcies.
But this thread is about ‘forgiving existing loans.” Setting aside for the moment about free college, the issue is about existing loans. Suzianne, are you saying that someone who has gone and gotten a loan for whatever reason should not have to pay the loan back? Wha in the...........
Aren't you being a bit inconsistent?
@chesstachio saidNo their innate talents and drives will be unleashed into the real economy and everyone’s a winner.
Then everyone cancels each other out in the workforce meathead.
How would anyone get ahead if we all have the same education?
Economics is not a zero sum game.
Like the UK the US imports well educated students and post grads into the US and that boosts the economy. What’s wrong with footing the bill and getting some more home grown post grads.
@chesstachio saidWe don't need to forgive loans, nearly every student debt in America could've been paid off with Trump's $1.3 trillion tax break for wealthy.
If student loans are cleared and forgiven what company will give out loans?
They won’t.
If nobody will give out loans because they won’t be paid back then only the rich can afford college/university.
If school is free at the expense of the taxpayer then everyone has the same education and they cancel each other out in the workforce.
A higher education put you ...[text shortened]... me education then you are not special and you work at McDonalds.
The leftists are dumb as fish. 🐟
@chesstachio saidMost of those loans were only given out because the government guaranteed them in the first place and over 92% are now held by the government. https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/loans/student-loans/student-loan-debt
If student loans are cleared and forgiven what company will give out loans?
They won’t.
If nobody will give out loans because they won’t be paid back then only the rich can afford college/university.
If school is free at the expense of the taxpayer then everyone has the same education and they cancel each other out in the workforce.
A higher education put you ...[text shortened]... me education then you are not special and you work at McDonalds.
The leftists are dumb as fish. 🐟