01 Dec 20
@vivify saidIt's hard to have a discussion with someone who believes everything should be paid for by others. Here people actually agreed to pay for their own education. You want to undue to their deal at taxpayer expense but have no proposal to compensate al others who paid for any means other than via loan or for those who already paid back their loan.
You're on the right track, education shouldn't be something you have to pay for, rich or poor.
01 Dec 20
@athousandyoung saidAt least you are honest about your hatred of the wealthy. I'll simply note that there is absolutely no evidence for your belief that wealth isn't earned.
The problem with your post is the "earned" part.
Rich people rarely earn their wealth.
01 Dec 20
@quackquack saidhttps://www.businessinsider.com/billionaires-who-inherited-their-money-2016-1
At least you are honest about your hatred of the wealthy. I'll simply note that there is absolutely no evidence for your belief that wealth isn't earned.
01 Dec 20
@quackquack saidExcept of course inherited wealth, which is, you know, inherited.
At least you are honest about your hatred of the wealthy. I'll simply note that there is absolutely no evidence for your belief that wealth isn't earned.
01 Dec 20
@quackquack saidSo look at the Fortune 500 list and Count People who started with parents worth more than 10$ and those who didn't. Think About it some time, draw conclusions.
At least you are honest about your hatred of the wealthy. I'll simply note that there is absolutely no evidence for your belief that wealth isn't earned.
01 Dec 20
@quackquack saidSo if a candidate stands on a policy of free tutelage at a higher education level you won’t have a problem because the people will have agreed to have it by electing that candidate.
It's hard to have a discussion with someone who believes everything should be paid for by others. Here people actually agreed to pay for their own education. You want to undue to their deal at taxpayer expense but have no proposal to compensate al others who paid for any means other than via loan or for those who already paid back their loan.
@averagejoe1 saidRead the post again Joe it’s logic isn’t based on ‘fairness’ it’s based on what’s best for ‘America.PLC’. If, because of your regressive tax system you end up with the most privileged running the country rather than the most able your gonna lose the game. The world has changed Joe, the US isn’t the only big kid on the block anymore and if you don’t stay competitive you lose.
But have we not stipulated that life is not fair? Some people are born to rich parents, some people are not born to rich parents. I would like for you to clearly tell us how you would rectify such a situation. Should all of their money be put in one pot and then divided exactly in half? I think that is what you are proposing? Or, what, then?
Is this when you say ...[text shortened]... yacht we keep speaking of? ....A goal he set 20 years ago. Do you deny him the yacht? Is that fair?
@kevcvs57 - If, because of your regressive tax system you end up with the most privileged running the country rather than the most able your gonna lose the game.
There can be no doubt that the elitists run America to a degree. But who are they?
Your liberals are very much to blame, kev. It is a non partisan issue.
Nancy Pelosi...? worth $140 million...? Big walled mansion,..? A freezer full of $15 a pint ice cream...?
You really think she cares about America?
The Libertarians say, take the power from them because NONE of them can be trusted with that kind of power.
"Who Watches the Watchers?"
@earl-of-trumps saidI’ve no idea how you’ve come to the conclusion that I support Dems in any real sense, I simply believe that they are less corrosive than the current alternative.
@kevcvs57 - If, because of your regressive tax system you end up with the most privileged running the country rather than the most able your gonna lose the game.
There can be no doubt that the elitists run America to a degree. But who are they?
Your liberals are very much to blame, kev. It is a non partisan issue.
Nancy Pelosi...? worth $140 million...? B ...[text shortened]... because NONE of them can be trusted with that kind of power.
"Who Watches the Watchers?"
If Biden and Pelosi were British politicians they would be Tories and I never have and never will vote Tory.
If I argue for universal health care or free tutelage in higher education I don’t do it in the name of the DNC.
@no1marauder saidMarx. Brrrrrr. I take you as not a very independent guy?
Taxes in the US are hardly "oppressive".
No, though fanatics like you won't admit it, a healthier, better educated populace is to the benefit of all. A system, such as one based on laissez faire capitalism, which results in a relative few being overcompensated for activities with little or no social worth and underinvestment in such areas for the many is a poor one and was, and is, in need of fundamental reform.
01 Dec 20
@kevcvs57 saidIf college should be free, should not food trump college? I mean, if we have $300B to throw out there, would it not be better to spend it on true necessity? How can you pick college, or medicine, over food? Strange bunch, indeed. People dig in dumpsters for food, not for books.
I’ve no idea how you’ve come to the conclusion that I support Dems in any real sense, I simply believe that they are less corrosive than the current alternative.
If Biden and Pelosi were British politicians they would be Tories and I never have and never will vote Tory.
If I argue for universal health care or free tutelage in higher education I don’t do it in the name of the DNC.
01 Dec 20
@averagejoe1 saidIn case you are unaware, there already exist Federal programs providing aid to buy food to the needy.
If college should be free, should not food trump college? I mean, if we have $300B to throw out there, would it not be better to spend it on true necessity? How can you pick college, or medicine, over food? Strange bunch, indeed. People dig in dumpsters for food, not for books.
01 Dec 20
@averagejoe1 saidAgain Joe it’s not a zero sum game is it. You can, as one of, if not, the richest countries on the planet provide good quality free education for the benefit of your competitive edge whilst ensuring none of your citizens starve to death.
If college should be free, should not food trump college? I mean, if we have $300B to throw out there, would it not be better to spend it on true necessity? How can you pick college, or medicine, over food? Strange bunch, indeed. People dig in dumpsters for food, not for books.
If that seems too tall an order then it just goes to prove my point about promoting privilege over performance.
01 Dec 20
@no1marauder saidNeedy? My cousin Bob is on hard times and cannot afford a place to live. He Needs a place to live. Can the Federals make a program exist to pay for a roof over his head? Maybe something to cook on? He would also like for someone to pay for his health care, but I told him that you and Kev and already working on that.
In case you are unaware, there already exist Federal programs providing aid to buy food to the needy.
Needy indeed. But, I also told him he will have to sleep in the rain until we get the college tuition program passed. He will be wet and sad, as he sits on a bench across from the college watching those cherubs going off to the local pub.
01 Dec 20
@averagejoe1 saidThere are also programs in place for the poor and homeless. These are necessities in a capitalist economy.
Needy? My cousin Bob is on hard times and cannot afford a place to live. He Needs a place to live. Can the Federals make a program exist to pay for a roof over his head? Maybe something to cook on? He would also like for someone to pay for his health care, but I told him that you and Kev and already working on that.
Needy indeed. But, I also told him he will have ...[text shortened]... ad, as he sits on a bench across from the college watching those cherubs going off to the local pub.