Student Loan Forgiveness?

@no1marauder said
Is it only OK if Donald Trump doesn't have to pay his debts back? You've praised his "brilliant business decisions" to file four separate bankruptcies.

Aren't you being a bit inconsistent?

Marauder, you get an F in debate technique. You are sounding like son house, did you just mention Trump? Please re-read the title of this thread and could you comment on my comment?

@vivify said
We don't need to forgive loans, nearly every student debt in America could've been paid off with Trump's $1.3 trillion tax break for wealthy.

Trump again? Help.

@averagejoe1 said
Trump again? Help.

Lets say I borrowed $350k last year to start a boys camp for poor children ‘at risk’ , to educate them for success in life. If you think these kids should not be required to pay back their loans, do you think that I should be required to pay my loan?

Logical answer, please?

@averagejoe1 said
Marauder, you get an F in debate technique. You are sounding like son house, did you just mention Trump? Please re-read the title of this thread and could you comment on my comment?

I did comment on your post which expressed shock at the idea that anyone should be able to have their debts forgiven. It is inconsistent with your prior posts regarding Donald Trump's bankruptcies.

Would you care to not dodge that issue?

@averagejoe1 said
Lets say I borrowed $350k last year to start a boys camp for poor children ‘at risk’ , to educate them for success in life. If you think these kids should not be required to pay back their loans, do you think that I should be required to pay my loan?

Logical answer, please?

You seem to be ignoring the fact that the institutions which educated the students will not lose a dime by forgiveness of the debt.

You, unlike the kids, could have that debt discharged in bankruptcy. Is that fair?

@no1marauder said
I did comment on your post which expressed shock at the idea that anyone should be able to have their debts forgiven. It is inconsistent with your prior posts regarding Donald Trump's bankruptcies.

Would you care to not dodge that issue?

I do not see a post in this thread were you expressed shock that other members of this thread think that students should not have to pay their loans back. If it is there, my apologies. Anyone should be shocked, of course. But some people here do not agree with you and me.
Again, I do not understand the interjection of Trump or his name into this particular thread. Maybe it is all there just to keep this thread from getting a foothold. Otherwise it is a great thread.

Can my camp loan be forgiven?

@no1marauder said
You seem to be ignoring the fact that the institutions which educated the students will not lose a dime by forgiveness of the debt.

You, unlike the kids, could have that debt discharged in bankruptcy. Is that fair?

There is a standing statutory law, a standing provision, to utilize the concept of bankruptcy in many areas. I don’t understand your interjecting bankruptcy here, however. And I think it’s hilarious that you think no one will lose if the debt is forgiven. Hilarious. If that were the case, then all school debt could just be forgiven!! ......and no one will suffer any loss??? Hilarious. You are saying that if I have maxed out 20 credit cards, and take bankruptcy, that no entity will lose in the process. Hilarious.

@averagejoe1 said
There is a standing statutory law, a standing provision, to utilize the concept of bankruptcy in many areas. I don’t understand your interjecting bankruptcy here, however. And I think it’s hilarious that you think no one will lose if the debt is forgiven. Hilarious. If that were the case, then all school debt could just be forgiven!! ......and no one will suffer any loss ...[text shortened]... maxed out 20 credit cards, and take bankruptcy, that no entity will lose in the process. Hilarious.

You are too stupid to keep arguing with.

If any rational person wants to discuss the matter, I'd be happy to explain to them the unique features of student loan debt in the US that differentiate it from other consumer and/or business debt. Primarily those are A) It is almost all owed to the US government and B) It is non-dischargeable in bankruptcy.

@no1marauder said
You are too stupid to keep arguing with.

If any rational person wants to discuss the matter, I'd be happy to explain to them the unique features of student loan debt in the US that differentiate it from other consumer and/or business debt. Primarily those are A) It is almost all owed to the US government and B) It is non-dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Why extrapolate into bankruptcy? Next you will be distinguishing between chapter 7 and 11. How about the simple issue? You say above that it is “almost all owed to the federal government”. As most liberals like to say..... “why, the people are the federal government”. OK. I agree with that. Therefore the money is owed to us, the taxpayers. So if it is not paid back, then we are not paid back. Now who is being stupid here. Am i missing something in your argument?
The money loaned to the student was used to buy things, tangible, like books, or intangible like the professors’ time. They were not free. So, students got money from you and me and a few hundred million more people, They will not pay it back to them. Some libs on this thread don’t get this, could you please tell them that I am correct?
Marauder, if the giving of those loans amounted to a debit in the federal budget, what happens to that debit? If I loan my brother $10 and he does not pay it back, I am $10 short. So you don’t think that is what happened at the govt level? Really?

@averagejoe1 said
Trump again? Help.

Way to ignore the part about $1 trillion in tax breaks wasted on the rich that could've been used to eliminate $1 trillion in student debt.

You get an F in debate.

@vivify said
Way to ignore the part about $1 trillion in tax breaks wasted on the rich that could've been used to eliminate $1 trillion in student debt.

You get an F in debate.

Thanks, vivify, I can use this totally irrelevant comment (to a thread about forgiving student debt) to entertain my friends, as I continue to show them how liberal posters never fail to 'veer off' to something else when they are at a loss to prove their points. Hey, did you see where Marauder said above that the institutions who educated the students would not lose a dime, and also saying that this is all OK,since it was the govt that made the loans....that the govt would lose nothing????? Absolutely hilarious. I think that he too is also in 'veer off' mode. Why don't you ask Marauder where he is coming from,,,,,,me, I just state facts. Vivify (and Marauder),, the money that was pulled away form some source to loan to students was Real Earned money. As Suzianne said, it was made on the backs of others. Alas, to no avail for the poor citizens who earned it, and sent it to the govt on April 15.

Hilarious. 🙂 🙂

@averagejoe1 said
Amazing that you think those little vacation spots can be compared to this country.

No, I compare the US to banana republics in Africa and South America.

@averagejoe1 said
Thanks, vivify, I can use this totally irrelevant comment (to a thread about forgiving student debt)

Showing how $1 trillion in student loan debt could've been eliminated using tax funds squandered on the rich is "irrelevant" to a thread about student debt.

You continue failing at debate.

@shavixmir said
No, I compare the US to banana republics in Africa and South America.

Ha, last time i checked in with your innocuous country (scotland i think,
but your profile is so cool, and mysterious, you have it shaaadowed), I noted that you were still scrambling for what currency to use!!!!! Hilarious!

@vivify said
Showing how $1 trillion in student loan debt could've been eliminated using tax funds squandered on the rich is "irrelevant" to a thread about student debt.

You continue failing at debate.

I'm trying here, but rational thought has got to apply. Settle down with your emotion, and your hate of 'rich people' who should foot all of this. Please.

I'm not sure about what you mean with ''the debt could have been eliminated". You are saying here to redistribute the money of wealthy people? Is that right? You are saying that rich people should pay money into the government (in form of taxes) that could be used to pay for college, so that students would not have to borrow money?

But, I have borrowed $350K for a camp for poor at-risk children. If all these college applicants get to go University at the cost of taxpayers, should not the taxpayers pay off my $350K debt? Do you care more about a kid at University, at the local pub having fun, or do you care more about the kids at camp while I am busting my butt to care for them?

How in the WORLD do libs differentiate between people who should get free stuff, and people who do not get free stuff? Remember, rational thought here.