The collapse of COVID in Florida

@no1marauder said
Cases are dropping almost everywhere in the US. We won't know how much they have dropped from the catastrophic highs Florida experienced in August and September for a few more weeks due to that State's reporting procedures though.

The graph on your own link shows cases as recent as Nov. 2nd 2021

@metal-brain said
The graph on your own link shows cases as recent as Nov. 2nd 2021

Proving what? That some counties report faster than others in Florida?

@no1marauder said
Proving what? That some counties report faster than others in Florida?

You said this:

"We won't know how much they have dropped from the catastrophic highs Florida experienced in August and September for a few more weeks due to that State's reporting procedures though."

If we don't know, why is your source reporting daily cases from just a few days ago?

@metal-brain said
You said this:

"We won't know how much they have dropped from the catastrophic highs Florida experienced in August and September for a few more weeks due to that State's reporting procedures though."

If we don't know, why is your source reporting daily cases from just a few days ago?

Jesus, why don't you read my first post on the last page and find out?

@no1marauder said
Jesus, why don't you read my first post on the last page and find out?

Suspect isn't exactly proof.

@sh76 said
Shoot the messenger all you like, but many sources bear out the stone cold fact that Florida now has the lowest COVID new infections rate in the country (or at least is right at the bottom). Even this hysterical anti-DeSantis diatribe conceded that.

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-now-has-americas-lowest-covid-rate-does-ron-de-santis-deserve-credit-090013615.html

Other sour ...[text shortened]... rus/fl-ne-florida-covid-19-lowest-case-rate-in-nation-20211028-gvcy2hxdnngufnv3vpwm23yuae-story.html

We'll do a little experiment; Friday Florida reported 1635 new cases leading to the claim that it now has the "lowest rate of new cases in the nation".

Let's check back in two weeks and then in four weeks and see how many new cases the Florida Department of Health reports on November 5th. I guarantee it will be more than 1635.

EDIT: Just for comparison, four weeks ago, October 8th, Florida now reports there were 3930 new cases. For the rest of the Fridays in October:

10/15: 2876

10/22: 2068

10/29: 2082

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

Let's monitor all those numbers and see if they change and by how much.

@no1marauder said
We'll do a little experiment; Friday Florida reported 1635 new cases leading to the claim that it now has the "lowest rate of new cases in the nation".

Let's check back in two weeks and then in four weeks and see how many new cases the Florida Department of Health reports on November 5th. I guarantee it will be more than 1635.

EDIT: Just for comparison, four weeks a ...[text shortened]... /coronavirus/usa/florida/

Let's monitor all those numbers and see if they change and by how much.

LMFAO…what an idiot

@sh76 said
Pretend you're not a partisan at all. I mean not one iota.

Okay, now.

In the grand scheme of things, is COVID impact in Florida vs. Australia a fair comparison?

For one Australia is one of the least densely populated nations in the world with the two most populous cities Sydney and Melbourne both ranking in the 900s in terms of least densely populated cities in the world. Add to that the cultural preference for a large personal space about them that they do not like invaded (not saying we are a stand offish bunch), on average Aussies tend to socially distance quite naturally as part of a widely accepted and understood social pact that deems social closeness and hugging behaviour as vaguely European and foreign and hence totally unacceptable and vaguely unAustrailian.
So yes Florida vs Australia is kind of like comparing apples to orangutans.

@no1marauder said
Top 20 States in cases per one million population:

1. North Dakota
2. Tennessee
3. Alaska
4. Wyoming
5. South Dakota
6. South Carolina
7. Utah
8. Florida
9. Rhode Island
10. Arkansas
11. Alabama
12. Mississippi
13. Montana
14. Iowa
15. Kentucky
16. Idaho
17. Louisiana
18. Oklahoma
19. Arizona
20. Georgia

https://www.worldometers.info/coronaviru ...[text shortened]...
To be fair to little Rhody, they have by far the highest rate of tests per one million population.

Blue states tended to get hammered very early on the pandemic when there was very little testing going on. In March of 2020 NY and NJ were counting maybe between 1 in 10 and 1 in 20 infections.

Please don't tell me you think that the COVID impact on NY and NJ are not in the top 20 over-all.

@no1marauder said
Sh ignored the post I'm quoting here, but by the time Florida's final September figures were totalled there had been over 8100 deaths and 320,000 new cases. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

I suspect all these articles making claims of Florida's low case rate are making the same error based on that State's practice of counting cases "on the day of the positive test" which causes extreme lags compared to most States counting them when reported.

Reporting vagaries are why I use good estimate sites like covidestim, which tells exactly the story I'm portraying. Raw case numbers are of very limited value.

@no1marauder said
We'll do a little experiment; Friday Florida reported 1635 new cases leading to the claim that it now has the "lowest rate of new cases in the nation".

Let's check back in two weeks and then in four weeks and see how many new cases the Florida Department of Health reports on November 5th. I guarantee it will be more than 1635.

EDIT: Just for comparison, four weeks a ...[text shortened]... /coronavirus/usa/florida/

Let's monitor all those numbers and see if they change and by how much.

covidestim's estimate of FL infections per capita are at pandemic-low levels.

https://covidestim.org/us/FL

Cases will naturally ebb and flow and will probably go up as we get deeper into flu season (even in Florida, which is affected by travelers from colder states even in winter). But I see no reason to believe that FL is on the verge of any kind of surge.

@sh76 said
Reporting vagaries are why I use good estimate sites like covidestim, which tells exactly the story I'm portraying. Raw case numbers are of very limited value.

Why use "estimates" when WM uses data from the relevant State Departments of Health?

@sh76 said
covidestim's estimate of FL infections per capita are at pandemic-low levels.

https://covidestim.org/us/FL

Cases will naturally ebb and flow and will probably go up as we get deeper into flu season (even in Florida, which is affected by travelers from colder states even in winter). But I see no reason to believe that FL is on the verge of any kind of surge.

Don't care about estimates. Nor have I suggested Florida is likely to experience another surge.

Stop playing like MB and start actually reading my posts.

@no1marauder said
Why use "estimates" when WM uses data from the relevant State Departments of Health?

For all the reasons you gave - reported cases are skewed by testing and reporting vagaries.

@no1marauder said
Don't care about estimates. Nor have I suggested Florida is likely to experience another surge.

Stop playing like MB and start actually reading my posts.

I didn’t say you did.

I’m saying minor case fluctuations, even if they occur, are insignificant.