Originally posted by blindfaith101Why was it necessary, or good, or bad that they should know "good and evil"?
The tree was The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good or evil,until they ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.All Adam had to do was listen to what GOD has said.
That is the answer to life.
And further. Why did Adam and Eve not know good or evil? Who built them fer' crying out loud!!!
Ok. God built them. Incomplete. They are a couple of "know-nothings" just wandering about having a good time.
Or they are upright apes, with no tools. Who cower into trees and lakes to seek safety from lions? Good. Evil. Evade lion. good. Eaten by lion. Evil.
Then one day, "adam or eve" invented a sharp stick about six feet long. And they were cast out of the garden on the day the first lion died at their hand.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyknowing evil can hurt you, cause pain, suffering, and seperation not just from God but from others. When Cain killed Abel he had to leave and live on his own.
Why was it necessary, or good, or bad that they should know "good and evil"?
That is the answer to life.
And further. Why did Adam and Eve not know good or evil? Who built them fer' crying out loud!!!
Ok. God built them. Incomplete. They are a couple of "know-nothings" just wandering about having a good time.
Or they are upright apes, w ...[text shortened]... to trees and lakes to seek safety from lions? Good. Evil. Evade lion. good. Eaten by lion. Evil.
"human kind" lost their innocense on the day they killed that big bad predator that had eaten them for a half million years. In that moment they had 'broken Gods law'. For does not God say that we are nothing to his glory? So to take a "tool" and use it as God himself used tools, to sustain or preserve life, was the ultimate sin.
Are we not paying the price of our pride to this day? Are we not destroying Gods earth with our tools? Our evil tools?
What started in a garden so innocently, as a small underpowered upright ape, killing a lion -- holds deep symbolic meaning. "We" did that! hah! We killed the mighty lion! Stand aside or we will kill you too!
And we did. For about five hundred thousand years. Our favorite food was our fellow humans.
They are easy to catch. Difficult to kill. But utterly enjoyable to eat.
Originally posted by blindfaith101poorly said....pity you don't have any original thoughts of your own.
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thou shalt surely die. GENESIS 2:16,17
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree t ...[text shortened]... n is death,but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. ROMANS 6:23
Originally posted by StarValleyWyAdam and Eve were given choices,and the did not really use the freedom of choice on their own,they had help. Adam had a special relationship with GOD.A one to one relationship. What happened in the garden was only apart of a bigger plot that was in play.
Why was it necessary, or good, or bad that they should know "good and evil"?
That is the answer to life.
And further. Why did Adam and Eve not know good or evil? Who built them fer' crying out loud!!!
Ok. God built them. Incomplete. They are a couple of "know-nothings" just wandering about having a good time.
Or they are upright apes, w ...[text shortened]... ix feet long. And they were cast out of the garden on the day the first lion died at their hand.
The answer to life is about choices.Man has been given choices.the animals,trees, and plants are sufferring because of our choices.The wrong of our choice we let an outside force influence us.
Adam and Eve were built complete,they walked, they talked,they thought,they had jobs,they were not rich,and they were not poor.They had everything that they needed.Man and animals lived in peace.
And God said,Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,which is apon the face of the earth,and every tree,in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth,and to every fowl of the air,and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. GENESIS 1:29,30
Originally posted by StarValleyWyIt would be very interresting if GOD,would allow all you,non believers, to go back to the begining,with all you know,to make that choice that
Too right.
But you left out the part about being tormented because we (atheists) see what "almost" certainly is. Yet are whacked between the eyes by our 'conscience' to obey the prime directive.
One can feel downright "dirty" when interfering with the species as it is now. Let it grow. Another ten thousand years can't hurt. Except for all the "true non-believers". They are zealots, and obey not the prime directive. 🙁😵
Adam had. I wonder how many will still be unbelievers. How many would be true to your unbelief. Just think,that thief that challenged CHRIST when he was on the cross. If he had the chance to do it all again,to go back to that moment in time.Would he ask to be saved or go back to eternity in hell.
Originally posted by blindfaith101There is no hell.....
It would be very interresting if GOD,would allow all you,non believers, to go back to the begining,with all you know,to make that choice that
Adam had. I wonder how many will still be unbelievers. How many would be true to your unbelief. Just think,that thief that challenged CHRIST when he was on the cross. If he had the chance to do it all again,to go back to that moment in time.Would he ask to be saved or go back to eternity in hell.
Originally posted by rapalla7time shall tell.There are those that insist that there is no hell.There are those that insist that there is.Who is right?
There is no hell.....
And fear not them which kill the body,but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
MATTHEW 10:28
I swear I have no idea how or why any of you "non-believers" have the stamina to continue these type of debates with people like blindfaith (God, what an appropriate name).
It's impossible because they are incapable of doing it and you would have better luck talking with a mango, a brick wall, a 1972 Dodge Dart, or any inanimate object.
Congrats Blindfaith...you win. You are better than me because you know the word. I and people like me are getting ready to board the bullet train straight to Hell.
But here's something to think about....what makes you and people like you so sure that you are not bound for Hell? Do you honestly believe your recruitment methods are "Christ"like? I would take a guess they are not and the big guy might have you on His sh!t list. Wouldn't that be funny if the non-believers here did make it to your Heaven while you rot in the other place because you continue to ramrod the Bible down everybody's throat? As you wrote in a feeble attempt to sound mystical, "Only time will tell."
Originally posted by rapalla7There is no such thing as a "casual Christian"...😉
You guys must be really bored arguing with brainwashed, dimwitted, cult members, which have stacks of propaganda at the ready to drone out the message they have no hope of understanding themselves. Ask them what exact sins Christ died for. They have no f-ing clue. But it is not important........is it?
They spew out the gospel as printed in their litt ...[text shortened]... le were murdered by the “Holy” church in the first place. Ignorance and fanaticism!
Mike
Originally posted by blindfaith101Is your username meant to be ironic?
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and earth.Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father,and of the Son, and the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always,even to the end of the world. Amen MATTHEW ...[text shortened]... et thing,whether it be good, or whether it be good, or whether it be evil. ECCLESIASTES 12:13,14